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Re: Motorola phones have started hijacking the Amazon app to insert affiliate codes

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Hmm, this thread and the reports of shady practices make me wonder if this will affect the partnership with GrapheneOS[1]. It seems that such things shouldn't really happen on a device where security is a top priority, whether intentional or not. 1: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47214645

Why does it matter? The GrapheneOS team will make the OS images. So as long as the phone is unlockable, has up-to-date firmware bundles, etc. who cares?

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To think I was worried about buying a Xiaomi tablet while already using a Motorola. Gonna flash a rom on the Xiaomi anyway, but all oems are doing this type of stuff.

Note that Xiaomi today is very hostile to bootloader unlocking -- to get unlock code you need to win in daily first come, first served "lottery" (they limit total number of unlocked devices per day). After a second or two passes you're already too late for the day.

Thank you for letting me know, the plan right now is to try for about a week or 2 and then give up and return the tablet if I can't.

Which is a damn shame because not too many options exist with a headphone jack and a Snapdragon processor. I'm in an environment where Bluetooth is unreliable for a good chunk of my day.

The only other tablet that fits my needs is a gosh darn Surface which is like 1000$.

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The comments here say that all Android phone manufacturers do stuff like this. I have never noticed that kind of things on my Fairphone. But then again, I don't have many apps and certainly not Amazon.

Fairphone or Pixel with GrapheneOS are currently the best bets if you actually want to own your phone.

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I used to choose Motorola devices for a long time but since 2 years when I bought Edge 30 Fusion I started to notice they automatically (without my knowledge) add 3 stupid apps or games about two times a month :/ There is no way to stop it. My kids phones are stuffed with this sh*t.

Motorola's history is so unfortunate. They were a great brand, cool phones, one of early Android players. After being bought out by Google, Motorola had some of the best devices out there with stock android, especially in the budget segment (and loved among android devs).They had one of the best smartwatches in the game at the time - Moto 360 (2014!!). Then, after dropping the Nexus 6, Google stripped the patents and…

I have exactly the same feelings.

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post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But AFAIK it doesn't work like that. Motorola makes a phone that has an unlockable bootloader, provides firmware bundles, etc., but the OS images will be made by the GrapheneOS team and they would never do anything like that. (I think the misunderstanding is that Motorola would make the GrapheneOS builds.)

I'm misunderstanding nothing You're probably just not willing to believe that a 'partnership' with a massive company will change things, like I do. I am disagreeing, not misunderstanding. There's a difference

Have you ever observed the GrapheneOS team? I have rarely seen any team more principled than them, outside maybe RMS.

Time will tell, but my bet is on the GrapheneOS team doing the right thing, they have always done so in the past.

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Think how bad the market got. Today we have preinstalled garbage apps like LinkedIn, garbage apps mandated to be preinstalled by the government, ads, cloud accounts, notifications spam, telemetry. This is not only Chinese smartphones, for example Samsung also plays this game. I assume there are Chinese backdoors, American backdoors and national government backdoors on almost every phone.

And there seems to be no way to buy a "free" smartphone without Google Services and telemetry below $250. Why 250? Because free OS have multiple bugs and issues and it is not rational to pay more than that.

I am considering two options, one, try to clean up and patch the firmware for a cheap smartphone (remove almost everything proprietary including Google Services, Unrusted Execution Environment, except for basic GUI and launcher), or two, port something like Lineage OS to my phone. Also I need to examine the network traffic and scan for potential weak points like SUID binaries. It is scary to think how much time I will have to waste for this.

Also, it is pretty stupid, in my opinion, to make an OS not based on Android, for example, use Qt for GUI, because there will be no apps for it.

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post #12

I used to choose Motorola devices for a long time but since 2 years when I bought Edge 30 Fusion I started to notice they automatically (without my knowledge) add 3 stupid apps or games about two times a month :/ There is no way to stop it. My kids phones are stuffed with this sh*t.

Motorola's history is so unfortunate. They were a great brand, cool phones, one of early Android players. After being bought out by Google, Motorola had some of the best devices out there with stock android, especially in the budget segment (and loved among android devs).They had one of the best smartwatches in the game at the time - Moto 360 (2014!!). Then, after dropping the Nexus 6, Google stripped the patents and…

FWIW, the worst thing I can say about the Moto Edge 50 Neo (a midrange phone) from a year ago is that it had "sponsored" apps pre-installed. They could be uninstalled (not just deactivated) the usual way and never came back.

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post #78

Since Uber, Airbnb and Tesla, now every company thinks they can do borderline illegal stuff to make an extra buck. What is next? Our banks selling our payment histories to the highest bidder?

Isn't credit ratings pretty much that? Buy the payment history on debt and then sell some derived value to anyone willing to pay?

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post #78

Since Uber, Airbnb and Tesla, now every company thinks they can do borderline illegal stuff to make an extra buck. What is next? Our banks selling our payment histories to the highest bidder?

> What is next? Our banks selling our payment histories to the highest bidder?

They do it for your own good, so that you get "more opportunity for consumer experiences in stores and online."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Card_transaction_data

https://pirg.org/edfund/resources/how-mastercard-sells-data/

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