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Earthion: A New Mega Drive-Style Shoot-Em-Up

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Re: Earthion: A New Mega Drive-Style Shoot-Em-Up

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Post by dleslie »

gryson wrote: post #31
dleslie wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a bunch on Youtube. The art has the typical issues of modern 16-bit and 8-bit games where the designers and artists are not targeting the full hardware stack of the era. Rather, they're targeting simulated machines (emulators) and sometimes also flash carts on original hardware but rendered on modern display hardware. What I notice is that the highly detailed sprite work doesn't produce the elegant artifactin…

The game makes good use of dithering throughout. Pixel bleeding? Are you referring to color distortion caused by the use of composite video? Why would you expect to see that in a screenshot viewed on your LCD screen? You'd have to actually see the game output via composite from a Mega Drive to a CRT to see it (which you would, since the art uses dithering well). This is one of the best-looking Mega Drive games releas…

The video I linked is taken of a CRT and is not a screenshot of an LCD.

This is an excellent deep dive on the issues I spoke of: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bC-8y2R6IxI

Re: Earthion: A New Mega Drive-Style Shoot-Em-Up

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Post by joemi »

cedel2k1 wrote: post #22

Haven't seen so many uninformed comments in a while on HN :-/ This is a MegaDrive game running in an emulator for the modern ports. Made by Makoto Wada and Yuzo Koshiro. Doesn't get mich more authentic than that imho. Original hardware, original artists. I understand it's not everyone's tea (anymore) tho.

The title of the thread itself says "Mega Drive-Style Shoot-Em-Up" (which implies it's not a Mega Drive game bit just one made in that style), so it's likely that's what's tripping people up.

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Post by pezezin »

dleslie wrote: post #71
gryson wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The game makes good use of dithering throughout. Pixel bleeding? Are you referring to color distortion caused by the use of composite video? Why would you expect to see that in a screenshot viewed on your LCD screen? You'd have to actually see the game output via composite from a Mega Drive to a CRT to see it (which you would, since the art uses dithering well). This is one of the best-looking Mega Drive games releas…

The video I linked is taken of a CRT and is not a screenshot of an LCD. This is an excellent deep dive on the issues I spoke of: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bC-8y2R6IxI

As usual, the video you posted mixes up how CRTs look with composite artifacts. Games played on a good quality CRT with RGB or component signals (arcade machines, PC monitors, TVs with SCART of YPbPr input) don't look nowhere as fuzzy.

Re: Earthion: A New Mega Drive-Style Shoot-Em-Up

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Post by pezezin »

gryson wrote: post #36
cedel2k1 wrote: post #22

Haven't seen so many uninformed comments in a while on HN :-/ This is a MegaDrive game running in an emulator for the modern ports. Made by Makoto Wada and Yuzo Koshiro. Doesn't get mich more authentic than that imho. Original hardware, original artists. I understand it's not everyone's tea (anymore) tho.

Don't you know - everyone's an expert because they saw a YouTube video about how modern pixel art isn't authentic... Seriously, this game is a miracle, and the amount of love Ancient put into it is unlike anything we've ever seen for a modern commercial release on hardware that came out in 1988! It certainly beats out a good portion of the games originally released on the Mega Drive.

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Re: Earthion: A New Mega Drive-Style Shoot-Em-Up

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Post by throwatdem12311 »

vunderba wrote: post #66
throwatdem12311 wrote: post #65

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Cave games are my absolute favorite. DOJ is probably my favorite game of all time. It’s as close to perfection as any videogame has ever been for me. Progear and Deathsmiles both my favorite horizontals from them. Deathsmiles probably edges it out just a bit. As for Raiden I’m a huge fan of Raiden Fighters Jet also! Viper Phase 1 is also excellent.

Nice! I'm a HUGE DoDonPachi fan, Mushihimesama is also great fun as well. I have the Nintendo Switch port coupled with an 8BitDo arcade stick and have sunk tons of hours into it.

I think I have like 300 hours on the Steam port of Mushihimesama, such a great game. Love the aesthetics. How’s the Arcade stick? I’ve been tempted to get one since I love the regular 8bitdo controllers and would love one I could use with both my Switch and PC.

Re: Earthion: A New Mega Drive-Style Shoot-Em-Up

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Post by MrBuddyCasino »

zedr wrote: post #62
ekianjo wrote: post #28

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Sonic being the exception

Another: Thunderforce 4. IMHO the finest horizontal shoot 'em up ever made on any system.

Insane. I wished the SNES had the MD‘s CPU, with transparency and SPC700 this would have been even better.

Re: Earthion: A New Mega Drive-Style Shoot-Em-Up

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Post by vunderba »

throwatdem12311 wrote: post #75
vunderba wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nice! I'm a HUGE DoDonPachi fan, Mushihimesama is also great fun as well. I have the Nintendo Switch port coupled with an 8BitDo arcade stick and have sunk tons of hours into it.

I think I have like 300 hours on the Steam port of Mushihimesama, such a great game. Love the aesthetics. How’s the Arcade stick? I’ve been tempted to get one since I love the regular 8bitdo controllers and would love one I could use with both my Switch and PC.

It's surprisingly decent for being kinda budget! I'm a big fan of 8bitDo because all their controllers are usu. easy to pair with all my stuff (Switch, PC, etc).

I’ve actually got my arcade stick temporarily modded with a Sanwa gate set to four-way, so it doesn’t register the diagonals like an eight-way stick. It works really well if you enjoy playing the TGM Tetris games.

Re: Earthion: A New Mega Drive-Style Shoot-Em-Up

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Post by alwaysmrno »

movedx wrote: post #37
alwaysmrno wrote: post #33

"Physical editions of Earthion are coming to North America! Pre-order the Standard or Collector’s Editions at Limited Run Games" Yikes. Seems like i'm not getting a physical copy then. I'm not giving any money to LRG. Which is a shame because it looks like a cool game.

LRG? Limited Run Games? I've never heard of them before. How come you're shunning them?

Theres a lot of reasons. One is that their CEO is an unhinged ass. If you complain about something or return a defective product the ban you from buying form them ever again. And that they are basically scalpers. the "Limited" in theire name is an outright lie as they usually print a lot more copies of "rare single run games" and then sell them on ebay for an extra profit.

just your general allround asshole business. You can find more detail information on youtube

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

tetrisgm wrote: post #29

A lot of people commenting seem unaware it’s an actual Sega Genesis game. It will get a cart release. The modern platform support is via emulators. It’s extremely well crafted. I’d argue it has the level of polish you’d expect from a very well made modern release. That is not the case with a lot of Genesis era shmups.

Neat, love seeing people make games for older platforms but presumably with modern tools to get more out of it. More as in better performance or more as in higher productivity leading to higher quality art and / or more content.

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Post by throwatdem12311 »

vunderba wrote: post #77
throwatdem12311 wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think I have like 300 hours on the Steam port of Mushihimesama, such a great game. Love the aesthetics. How’s the Arcade stick? I’ve been tempted to get one since I love the regular 8bitdo controllers and would love one I could use with both my Switch and PC.

It's surprisingly decent for being kinda budget! I'm a big fan of 8bitDo because all their controllers are usu. easy to pair with all my stuff (Switch, PC, etc). I’ve actually got my arcade stick temporarily modded with a Sanwa gate set to four-way, so it doesn’t register the diagonals like an eight-way stick. It works really well if you enjoy playing the TGM Tetris games.

I’ve been playing Tetris Effect on my PC with a keyboard (also the 8bit do mechanical keyboard, which I also love)lately and other than a 4 way gate stick I don’t think I could play any other way. Although I found the 4-button setup of the Nintendo joycon to work decently, they are so small and I have big hands so I get cramps quickly…

I have been debating between a (less expensive) 8bit do or the (nearly 3x price) Mayflash F700 but the mod ability of the 8bit do just might see me get both…both are moddable but I still want to keep one that is “pure” if you catch my drift. Seems I might be unknowingly but knowingly walking into a new weird niche hobby lol

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