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Netherlands Seizes 800 Servers, Arrests 2 for Aiding Cyberattacks

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Re: Netherlands Seizes 800 Servers, Arrests 2 for Aiding Cyberattacks

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We should note these are not even slightly legitimate hosting companies, lest anyone worry too much about their non-KYC offshore servers. These aren't hosting companies that ask little, they are just directly front companies for Russian intelligence, owned by members of Russian intelligence, they don't do anything else, they don't provide hosting service to regular people even if you want it (I have tried). Unlike in…

> email service provider (pissmail)

I'm sorry this happened to you.

Re: Netherlands Seizes 800 Servers, Arrests 2 for Aiding Cyberattacks

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It's not easy to go legit, especially in today's job market, depending on where you live in the world also. The US is unique with its high salaries for tech work (on the lower end of those of high salaries is pure ops work like this though). If you're in a country where the average sysadmin salary is substantially lower (to pick on Eastern Europe for a minute, you're looking at the equivalent of ~$30-35k USD/year), i…

> to pick on Eastern Europe for a minute, you're looking at the equivalent of ~$30-35k USD/year This is a disingenuous claim. Not only are there software engineers in rich western European countries that in absolute terms earn less than that but also your east European software engineer still earns multiple times their country's average salary.

I think s/he meant that if you earn 30k it's easy to be tempted by crime because the numbers are big. What night not tempt a Google engineer might tempt a telecoms infrastructure key from Anytinytown, Moldova/Romania/...

That said I don't think there are many good software engineers that earn less than that in Western Europe. Net maybe, but certainly not gross, and if it's net that covers anything from pension security to healthcare, meaning you can live a decent life in most places.

Re: Netherlands Seizes 800 Servers, Arrests 2 for Aiding Cyberattacks

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>As far as I can make sense of it, he enjoyed the thrill of feeling superior to others: Evading the law, exploiting people who viewed as stupid, and enriching himself in the process. I sadly see this pattern of thinking far more often than I want to in my fellow eastern Europeans.

Let's not generalize, even if you feel like you can say that because you're a member of a group you're generalizing. It's unfair to most of the people in any group being generalized.

Generalization is a tool, not something inherently bad or evil.

Re: Netherlands Seizes 800 Servers, Arrests 2 for Aiding Cyberattacks

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...because on HN, experiences which somehow contradict the perspective when salaries are highly varying across countries, esp. when someone decides to pick an explicit example, which, even if it shows the truth, is against the base-assumption of the reader of a comment. To put it somehow dimplomatic :-D

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Re: Netherlands Seizes 800 Servers, Arrests 2 for Aiding Cyberattacks

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If communism is the cause, then why would this same mentality be such a massive problem in America?

This mentality is a huge problem in America. We have insane amounts of corruption and just flat out crime. The corruption just rarely gets prosecuted in a courtroom

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>As far as I can make sense of it, he enjoyed the thrill of feeling superior to others: Evading the law, exploiting people who viewed as stupid, and enriching himself in the process. I sadly see this pattern of thinking far more often than I want to in my fellow eastern Europeans.

Let's not generalize, even if you feel like you can say that because you're a member of a group you're generalizing. It's unfair to most of the people in any group being generalized.

Generalizing doesn't mean everybody or even most in the group. It means it's a common behavior in the group relative to other groups.

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It's racism when it's (a) racially motivated, (b) not a correct fact.

In this case the person is itself a member of the group, and the statement they made isn't even a generalization to the group at large - just an observation about certain common tendencies seen in it.

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