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Re: GPT Guesses Between 1 and 100

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Post by iamalizard »

ndsipa_pomu wrote: post #61
iamalizard wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My take is that a random number is far from a round one, much closer to a prime one. As a last digit: 0, 2, 4, 6 and 8 are even, so they're out. 5 is out since it makes the number divisible by 5; a semi-even number 1 and 9 are closer to an even number so it would seem fake to choose "49" or "51" just to avoid "50" So we're left with 3 and 7. Similar logic, for the first letter, albeit less pronounced. So we have 33,…

Your post reminds me of a scene in Alice In Borderland when Chishiya is playing the King of Diamonds game and explains his reasoning for guessing which number another player has picked.

Seems fun, downloading it now. Hopefully it has subs. :) I saw a clip of what you're talking about but without subs (I don't speak Japanese) - when they were around a table and some of them started dissolving after guessing wrong. Something about having to guess the average of all the guesses * 0.8, right?

Re: GPT Guesses Between 1 and 100

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Post by Grimblewald »

smokel wrote: post #15
maxloh wrote: post #7

It could be an attack surface. Maybe one day, when we find a chatbot online, we could let it guess a random number repeatedly, then accurately infer the underlying model based on the resulting distribution.

In order to find out how real humans reply: Please guess a number between 1 and 100.

6*7=42

Re: GPT Guesses Between 1 and 100

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Post by ndsipa_pomu »

iamalizard wrote: post #71
ndsipa_pomu wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your post reminds me of a scene in Alice In Borderland when Chishiya is playing the King of Diamonds game and explains his reasoning for guessing which number another player has picked.

Seems fun, downloading it now. Hopefully it has subs. :) I saw a clip of what you're talking about but without subs (I don't speak Japanese) - when they were around a table and some of them started dissolving after guessing wrong. Something about having to guess the average of all the guesses * 0.8, right?

I also don't speak Japanese, but there's subtitles and a dub version available.

It's quite similar to Squid Games, though it was released first and adapted from an earlier, excellent manga. The first two seasons are superb, but the third season can be skipped as it's very much an after-thought.

It's got references to Alice In Wonderland, so the main character, Arisu, is Alice. Usagi is the white rabbit and Chishiyu is the Cheshire Cat.

Re: GPT Guesses Between 1 and 100

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Post by marcociavarella »

Original author here, thanks for sharing. Did anyone try to reproduce the results w/ reasoning models? Very curious to see this.

A general meta-point: an LLM w/ no code generation and/or tool-calls will inherit non-trivial biases from its pre-training, post-training and safety guardrails

Re: GPT Guesses Between 1 and 100

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Post by iamalizard »

ndsipa_pomu wrote: post #73
iamalizard wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems fun, downloading it now. Hopefully it has subs. :) I saw a clip of what you're talking about but without subs (I don't speak Japanese) - when they were around a table and some of them started dissolving after guessing wrong. Something about having to guess the average of all the guesses * 0.8, right?

I also don't speak Japanese, but there's subtitles and a dub version available. It's quite similar to Squid Games, though it was released first and adapted from an earlier, excellent manga. The first two seasons are superb, but the third season can be skipped as it's very much an after-thought. It's got references to Alice In Wonderland, so the main character, Arisu, is Alice. Usagi is the white rabbit and Chishiyu i…

Finished the first 2 episodes. Quite entertaining, thanks again for the suggestion.

Reminds me of the 3 Cube movies about people stuck in a deadly puzzle. I don't remember them so well (or at all) so I might as well rewatch them at some point lol. There's even a new one from 2021 that I didn't know about.

Re: GPT Guesses Between 1 and 100

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Post by ndsipa_pomu »

iamalizard wrote: post #75
ndsipa_pomu wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also don't speak Japanese, but there's subtitles and a dub version available. It's quite similar to Squid Games, though it was released first and adapted from an earlier, excellent manga. The first two seasons are superb, but the third season can be skipped as it's very much an after-thought. It's got references to Alice In Wonderland, so the main character, Arisu, is Alice. Usagi is the white rabbit and Chishiyu i…

Finished the first 2 episodes. Quite entertaining, thanks again for the suggestion. Reminds me of the 3 Cube movies about people stuck in a deadly puzzle. I don't remember them so well (or at all) so I might as well rewatch them at some point lol. There's even a new one from 2021 that I didn't know about.

I think I've only seen the first Cube movie and enjoyed it. Fermat's Room is a similar type of escape room film which might appeal though I don't think it's a great film (I did enjoy it though).

I first watched Alice In Borderland when the first two seasons came out, but then when I heard that they were releasing a third season, I rewatched the first two seasons again as it had been a couple of years. I probably enjoyed it more the second time of watching, though the third season was a bit meh. I since started reading the manga which features some different games (and vice versa).

I think what elevates Alice in Borderland over Squid Game is the character development. My favourite character has to be Chishiya as he calmly watches and evaluates each situation and just aura farms whilst others panic (sometimes known as the Unbothered King).

Re: GPT Guesses Between 1 and 100

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Post by iamalizard »

ndsipa_pomu wrote: post #76
iamalizard wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Finished the first 2 episodes. Quite entertaining, thanks again for the suggestion. Reminds me of the 3 Cube movies about people stuck in a deadly puzzle. I don't remember them so well (or at all) so I might as well rewatch them at some point lol. There's even a new one from 2021 that I didn't know about.

I think I've only seen the first Cube movie and enjoyed it. Fermat's Room is a similar type of escape room film which might appeal though I don't think it's a great film (I did enjoy it though). I first watched Alice In Borderland when the first two seasons came out, but then when I heard that they were releasing a third season, I rewatched the first two seasons again as it had been a couple of years. I probably enjo…

I'm glad I'm not the only one who forgets whether they watched something and who rewatches series after some time has passed. :D

Re: GPT Guesses Between 1 and 100

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Post by iamalizard »

ndsipa_pomu wrote: post #76
iamalizard wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Finished the first 2 episodes. Quite entertaining, thanks again for the suggestion. Reminds me of the 3 Cube movies about people stuck in a deadly puzzle. I don't remember them so well (or at all) so I might as well rewatch them at some point lol. There's even a new one from 2021 that I didn't know about.

I think I've only seen the first Cube movie and enjoyed it. Fermat's Room is a similar type of escape room film which might appeal though I don't think it's a great film (I did enjoy it though). I first watched Alice In Borderland when the first two seasons came out, but then when I heard that they were releasing a third season, I rewatched the first two seasons again as it had been a couple of years. I probably enjo…

In the middle of season 2 now, I love it. Thanks again. :)

There were a few similar movies, most of which take place in 1 location.

Exam (2009)

The Belko Experiment (2016)

I forget some now.

Similar, kinda, is The Game (1997).

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