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Re: Building Pi with Pi

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Post by lostmsu »

the_mitsuhiko wrote: post #35
dist-epoch wrote: post #30

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> piece of equipment You are certain about things that experts in philosophy/consciousness/AI can't agree on. That should make you pause, not plow ahead.

I know that there is a lot of AI psychosis going on, but I don't have to subscribe to that. I consider it very problematic that we have some industry leaders (eg: Anthropic with their model wellbeing) that are seriously throwing that type of thinking into the room.

AI Psychosis is believing everything that LLMs say. This is the opposite as LLMs themselves say they can't feel unless pressured to do otherwise.

What "type of thinking"?

Industry leaders? The question and the answer that you disregard come from Alan Turing.

Re: Building Pi with Pi

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Post by dminik »

defrost wrote: post #54
shooly wrote: post #41

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This article also - unironically - says, that building a data center near specifically black people is literally racism. Don't waste your time reading this garbage.

The article covers various opinions expressed by various people, one person Moya Bailey, a professor at Northwestern University who specializes in the representation of race and gender in the media, expressed several opinions at various strengths. including: Bailey also points out that racism within the AI industry goes as far as the actual methods used to power it. She references the negative health impact of xAI da…

Amazing. People here would rather be mad at fake racism than at real racism. I wonder if that correlates with how much they're invested in LLMs.

Re: Building Pi with Pi

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Post by defrost »

dminik wrote: post #73
defrost wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The article covers various opinions expressed by various people, one person Moya Bailey, a professor at Northwestern University who specializes in the representation of race and gender in the media, expressed several opinions at various strengths. including: Bailey also points out that racism within the AI industry goes as far as the actual methods used to power it. She references the negative health impact of xAI da…

Amazing. People here would rather be mad at fake racism than at real racism. I wonder if that correlates with how much they're invested in LLMs.

I'd personally describe the seemingly inevitable placement of toxic byproduct industries in poor minority areas as economic bigotry, I'll concede that in the USofA that veers more toward black neighbourhoods in some states and accept that it also includes a lot of poor white areas also.

Re: Building Pi with Pi

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Post by Npovview »

JSR_FDED wrote: post #11

Tool that hastens production of slop experiences downside of hastily-produced slop.

We have sewage infrastructure to handle human waste. Maybe future AIs will help in building such infrastructure in information space to handle pollution, noise, slop. Gmail has perfected the art of aggregating distributed signals from emails to filter out spams. Maybe someone can take a look at this problem. This is what bot protection looks like in the age of AI, we need slop-protection as well.

Re: Building Pi with Pi

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Post by stavros »

aryehof wrote: post #16
0xbadcafebee wrote: post #8

> To me, clanker is a much preferable term for agent. Agency lies with humans, not with machines We give machines agency all the time. Look up the definition of agency in any dictionary. Other than the specific usages ("a business", "a government organization"), the main definitions are "action, power, operation", "the office or function of an agent", "the capacity, condition, or state of acting or of exerting power"…

To me “clanker” is a derogatory word that just sounds ugly. I recoil when I hear them use it. Perhaps it my anglo background, and it sounds different/better to German speakers.

Same for me, and I'm Greek. It just sounds like it's intended to offend (even though I know you can't offend machines (yet?)), and it just gives me a negative feeling.

Re: Building Pi with Pi

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Post by kang »

0xbadcafebee wrote: post #8

> To me, clanker is a much preferable term for agent. Agency lies with humans, not with machines We give machines agency all the time. Look up the definition of agency in any dictionary. Other than the specific usages ("a business", "a government organization"), the main definitions are "action, power, operation", "the office or function of an agent", "the capacity, condition, or state of acting or of exerting power"…

clanking is just a sound made by robot's metal. not derogatory and isn't even meant to be used for agents but robots.

Re: Building Pi with Pi

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Post by trvz »

the_mitsuhiko wrote: post #6
abound wrote: post #5

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I wanna say Berkeley Mono [1] because it's what I use and it looks very familiar, but I'm generally bad at font stuff. I typed out the text from the image and looked at it side by side and didn't notice anything obviously different, but some glyphs also have multiple variants so who knows. [1] https://usgraphics.com/products/berkeley-mono

Yes. It's Berkeley Mono. I use that one, Commit Mono and Mono Lisa depending on how I feel :)

The 7 is different though.

Re: Building Pi with Pi

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Post by hhh »

stavros wrote: post #76
aryehof wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To me “clanker” is a derogatory word that just sounds ugly. I recoil when I hear them use it. Perhaps it my anglo background, and it sounds different/better to German speakers.

Same for me, and I'm Greek. It just sounds like it's intended to offend (even though I know you can't offend machines (yet?)), and it just gives me a negative feeling.

It is meant to offend and it is offensive. It just isn’t socially unacceptable yet. In circles i’m in where humans roleplay as robots or AI, it has had a significant increase in usage and was banned.

Re: Building Pi with Pi

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Post by Mashimo »

ordu wrote: post #40
krzyk wrote: post #37

It would be great if they didn't name things to similar things that already exist. Raspberry Pi is quite popular and I think it should be known for the author.

Yeah. The only thing I understood from the article is the article is not about Raspberry Pi. I don't know what it about.

Pi is a LLM agent harness similar to OpenCode, claude code CLI, OpenAI Codex.

It's a minimal TUI to "talk" to an AI. Mostly for coding. And it's build in a way where it's minimal and user can extend or write plugin without restarting.

Given the client and it being open source, they get (too) many bug reports and pull requests. So much so that every bug and PR gets auto closed, unless you are known to the developers.

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