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Ebola Outbreak Now Third Largest Recorded and "Spreading Rapidly"

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Re: Ebola Outbreak Now Third Largest Recorded and "Spreading Rapidly"

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Post by dyauspitr »

somenameforme wrote: post #66
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #2

This unfortunately won’t be news again until, and I think this is now an until versus if, we find evidence the disease is spreading uncontrollably outside the DRC.

Ebola isn't like most people think. It isn't airborne, isn't respiratory and requires direct contact with blood/semen/feces/etc to spread. It's also only known to be contagious once symptoms are present. The risk of a global outbreak is very low. Africa has a large array of unique circumstances that make it much more 'viral' there, including various cultural funerary rituals that involve contact with corpses that can…

Viruses are viruses though. Becoming airborne and less deadly (like this current strain) would be a death knell for the world. The longer you let it hang around the longer it has time to adapt. This is why HIV medication is prescribed so overwhelmingly. One of the main goals is to stop all replication immediately or it rather quickly “figures out” how to get past the drug.

Re: Ebola Outbreak Now Third Largest Recorded and "Spreading Rapidly"

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Post by WarmWash »

Groxx wrote: post #50
WarmWash wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trump is the populist candidate elected to put the US back on competitive economic footing. His economic policy has way more overlap with Bernie's than people tend to understand. Both believe immigration lowers wages, and both believe tariffs are imperative (you have to dig back to pre-2017 talk from Bernie, he changed his website/talking points after Trump won). Edit: People struggle so hard with politics because ev…

I sorta doubt Bernie would've been causing the insane tariff chaos that Trump is constantly doing. How it's done matters immensely .

You are right, but competent populist or incompetent populist is still populist.

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Post by jbm »

slg wrote: post #61
adventured wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The world has never been thankful for the positive things the US has done. The only thing it ever garnered were the briefest of superficial nods. China gets drastically more respect with their approach than the US ever has, while doing a tiny fraction of the good. The US saved tens of millions of Russians from starvation a century ago. Culturally they have absolutely no clue about that, they're entirely oblivious in…

You do good things because they are good, not to be thanked. It's so bizarre to frame saving lives as something that requires reciprocation. I want my country to pay for these programs because they save lives and my country is rich enough to afford it. The way people talk about this stuff so amorally is incredibly off-putting.

The idea that people did not thank the US is laughable.

I have literally met Japanese people who have been thankful to the US for dropping nukes on them while pissing themselves about North Korea having missiles. The difference is that they perceived the US as an enlightened hegemony, and this is in part because of the relative pennies spent on Africa.

Incidentally, There is an animated series called Gasaraki with an endearingly simplistic and worshipful view of the US that aligns with how they viewed the US, especially at the end.

Good luck with AI hunter killers replacing good will.

Re: Ebola Outbreak Now Third Largest Recorded and "Spreading Rapidly"

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Post by christkv »

pixelpoet wrote: post #34
christkv wrote: post #7

You are only infectious during illness and it requires contact with fluids. It's exasperated by local funeral rituals where people interact with the dead body and get infected.

Exacerbated*, however it surely is exasperating how poorly this is being handled.

Do you know how big this area is and how difficult it is?

Re: Ebola Outbreak Now Third Largest Recorded and "Spreading Rapidly"

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Post by dnqthao »

WarmWash wrote: post #49
jmpman wrote: post #19

Grok is very defensive of Elon's role in the current Ebola outbreak. However if you push on Elon impacting Ebola monitoring, it will eventually admit that Elon's DOGE cancelled "some" Ebola prevention efforts very briefly, but in reality many Ebola related contracts and programs were not fully restored. "Surveillance capacity in eastern DRC weakened, contributing to the current Bundibugyo Ebola strain circulating und…

I understand the need for charity, and we should be doing it to support these countries. But I don't see how to logically make the connection that when you pull that charity back, you are now responsible for any crisis. That is exactly the argument that people who are against foreign aid make. Like I will help you walk and feed your dog if you can't all the time, but if I stop doing that and your dog gets sick, that'…

It is not charity, these are to protect the US against these diseases. Do you think it will stay there and will not come to US shore?

Re: Ebola Outbreak Now Third Largest Recorded and "Spreading Rapidly"

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Post by WarmWash »

throwaway5752 wrote: post #54
WarmWash wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trump is the populist candidate elected to put the US back on competitive economic footing. His economic policy has way more overlap with Bernie's than people tend to understand. Both believe immigration lowers wages, and both believe tariffs are imperative (you have to dig back to pre-2017 talk from Bernie, he changed his website/talking points after Trump won). Edit: People struggle so hard with politics because ev…

You're finding somethere where nothing exists on the basis of semantics. Donald Trump is not a populist and he stated economic policy is simply "stated". Society just has become so trusting that someone can go about bald-faced lying about their beliefs and actions, while doing the opposite, without consequence. Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders are on polar opposite ends of ideologies. Bernie Sanders has a lifetime rec…

Do you know what populism is, or do you think you know what populism is because you're inferring it from random social media posts?

Re: Ebola Outbreak Now Third Largest Recorded and "Spreading Rapidly"

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Post by christkv »

mentalgear wrote: post #31
christkv wrote: post #7

You are only infectious during illness and it requires contact with fluids. It's exasperated by local funeral rituals where people interact with the dead body and get infected.

I wonder if you have sources on this? I heard that this is a new variant that has a much longer incubation time. A longer time until symptoms appear means it will spread much quicker and wider (that was also the issue with Covid that had a incubation time of 5 - 8 days).

Sure https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4456362/ it outlines history and spread. incubation period is long but there is no asymptomatic transmission that is known.

Re: Ebola Outbreak Now Third Largest Recorded and "Spreading Rapidly"

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Post by christkv »

r721 wrote: post #47
christkv wrote: post #7

You are only infectious during illness and it requires contact with fluids. It's exasperated by local funeral rituals where people interact with the dead body and get infected.

The "coughing up blood" symptom can cause you to come into contact with fluids involuntarily.

sure but's not flu or covid in ability to spread.

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Post by throwaway3060 »

slg wrote: post #61
adventured wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The world has never been thankful for the positive things the US has done. The only thing it ever garnered were the briefest of superficial nods. China gets drastically more respect with their approach than the US ever has, while doing a tiny fraction of the good. The US saved tens of millions of Russians from starvation a century ago. Culturally they have absolutely no clue about that, they're entirely oblivious in…

You do good things because they are good, not to be thanked. It's so bizarre to frame saving lives as something that requires reciprocation. I want my country to pay for these programs because they save lives and my country is rich enough to afford it. The way people talk about this stuff so amorally is incredibly off-putting.

When you constantly get villainized for being involved, that makes it a lot harder to justify to the populace that these things are worth doing. People actually do listen, but not always in the way one intended. At this point, is it any wonder that much of the populace is now convinced that non-involvement is the moral choice? (And I say this as someone who fears this state of affairs)

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Post by ShinyLeftPad »

somenameforme wrote: post #48
m-s-y wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For EVs, yes, absolutely

Yip, outside the US BYD cars are absolutely everywhere, pretty awesome cars, and crazy cheap - like < $15k. Apparently < $10k within China itself.

The price is not the important part, it basically doesn't matter. On top of subsidies and government policy aiming to undermine manufacturing in EU and elsewhere, domestic consumption in PRC is laughably low and government policies act to transfer wealth from households to manufacturing. Locals won't buy the supply, PRC literally has to get these cars somewhere or trash them.

Now if those cars are actually good, price independent, then that would be worth mentioning.

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