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DeepSeek makes the V4 Pro price discount permanent

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Re: DeepSeek makes the V4 Pro price discount permanent

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Post by [deleted] »

wiradikusuma wrote: post #63
ammar_x wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can use V4 Pro with Claude Code [1]. I tried it and it's impressive. [1]: https://api-docs.deepseek.com/quick_start/agent_integrations...

That's interesting. I thought Claude Code is not as good, therefore people want to use Claude model with other alternatives. This is the other way around. Which begs the question, regardless of the model, which Claude Code alternative is better? (I keep saying "Claude Code alternative" because I don't know the term... LLM CLI?)

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Re: DeepSeek makes the V4 Pro price discount permanent

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Post by LaurensBER »

alyxya wrote: post #11

Once they have their own coding agent which they seem to be working towards, I may start predominantly using their models. They seem to be doing all the "right" things, open sourcing models, publishing research, and keeping prices low for everyone.

It works very well with OpenCode. My team keeps hitting the 5h limits on other subscriptions and it's pretty good to have Deepseek as a backup. I just put 50 bucks on there and it feels like it'll never run out.

It's not good enough to fully replace any of the frontier models yet but it's definitely great to have as a backup!

Re: DeepSeek makes the V4 Pro price discount permanent

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Post by opsnooperfax »

doctoboggan wrote: post #31

I am more worried about accidental data leak (agent reading env file for example) with the Chinese hosted models compared to the US hosted models. Am I wrong to suspect that the Chinese government might be more likely to scan all chats and save useful information compared to the US government or company? I hesitated to even post this comment as it sounds biased and xenophobic. I would love for someone to convince me…

I would not be shocked if they do that. I would not be terribly shocked that the US-headquartered models do that for another government either. As far as data confidentiality goes, I wouldn’t hold my breath. Microsoft checks all those enterprise boxes, right? Yet, Azure still gets breached once in a while.

Re: DeepSeek makes the V4 Pro price discount permanent

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Post by dualvariable »

doctoboggan wrote: post #31

I am more worried about accidental data leak (agent reading env file for example) with the Chinese hosted models compared to the US hosted models. Am I wrong to suspect that the Chinese government might be more likely to scan all chats and save useful information compared to the US government or company? I hesitated to even post this comment as it sounds biased and xenophobic. I would love for someone to convince me…

I'm not important enough for anyone in China to go out of their way to attack me. And DeepSeek has to maintain a sufficient level of trust so that users keep using their platform--they can't just act like a keylogger attacking everyone's crypto wallets or trust collapses.

If I was working on something that the Chinese government considered of strategic importance, then I would certainly be worried about it. But I don't do that.

I'm much more worried about techbros in this country using their LLMs to extensively profile me and produce something vastly more dystopian in this country than the real or imagined social credit scores in China. The people trying to convince you that the Chinese government are the people you should be worried about (as an individual in the United States) are probably the people you really need to be worried about.

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Post by chandureddyvari »

wolttam wrote: post #58
Scarbutt wrote: post #39

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Surprised Anthropic hasn't done anything to restrict Claude Code from using other providers.

The value of Claude Code the harness isn't that great. There's a lot of other good harnesses out there.

What’s your favourite harness? Is there any benchmarks for harness like LLMs have for swe verified?

Re: DeepSeek makes the V4 Pro price discount permanent

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Post by crooked-v »

wolttam wrote: post #58
Scarbutt wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Surprised Anthropic hasn't done anything to restrict Claude Code from using other providers.

The value of Claude Code the harness isn't that great. There's a lot of other good harnesses out there.

And it gets dragged down by Anthropic actively injecting unhelpful things into prompts without telling users about them (https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/58262).

Re: DeepSeek makes the V4 Pro price discount permanent

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Post by zozbot234 »

eiek wrote: post #69
onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #55

I just canceled Claude Code and Codex today. RIP. Claude literally refuses to finish tasks in auto mode and just keeps saying, now is a good stopping point, when it's 1% done (and doing the EXACT OPPOSITE of what I tell it). Codex is barely better... May as well pay 1/20th the price for DeepSeek. Claude seems to have something that looks at how long you've been a customer and then just massively degrades quality. Whe…

They’re playing games behind the scenes to massage and manage their earnings. China is gonna win long term there’s no doubt. The fact that the American firms haven’t created immense escape velocity despite the disparity in spending is quite telling.

The nice thing about hosting inference locally is that you can be sure you're not being rug-pulled in any way. This doesn't really help China 'win' though, it's just freeloading on them making their weights openly available.

Re: DeepSeek makes the V4 Pro price discount permanent

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Post by onlyrealcuzzo »

Reubend wrote: post #10

Props to them. That makes DeepSeek v4 Pro extremely cheap compared to others, even in the same category. Look at these prices per million outputs tokens: DeepSeek V4 Pro: $0.87 Qwen 3.7 Max: $7.50 Grok 4.3: $2.50 GLM 1.5: $3.08 Opus 4.7: $25.00 GPT-5.5: $30.00

And they don't make the model worse once you have a subscription!

It doesn't matter how good Opus is if 2 months into your subscription they make it worse than GPT 3 to save money.

Re: DeepSeek makes the V4 Pro price discount permanent

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Post by kajman »

margorczynski wrote: post #20

Maybe the Chinese are playing the long game by trying to bankrupt the US competition? Because there's no way this is financially viable.

Maybe not. I don't see how US inference providers can compete anyway with commoditized models. Costs are out of control here and the infrastructure is way worse.
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