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Spotify will start reserving concert tickets for fans

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Re: Spotify will start reserving concert tickets for fans

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Post by browningstreet »

I’ve almost entirely given up on managing music. Just done with it.

I listen to soma.fm and radioparadise.com .. I read one music magazine and listen to some of the music recommendations from there, but following any of it, over time, is a lost cause for me.

I was just remarking to someone how music apps are the least interesting, personal, and innovative of all the things I live with.

Examples: we still can’t manage playlists of albums, or down signal genres of music or even artists, or separate “calm” music for sleep from all the other generative playlist rankings they use.

Apple Music is entirely useless to me since the only “for me” stuff they’ll generate is music for sleeping. As if I don’t do other things.

Re: Spotify will start reserving concert tickets for fans

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Post by mike-cardwell »

lbreakjai wrote: post #29
827a wrote: post #5

For those against this: I'm curious to hear your take on how you'd stop/mitigate scalping.

Why should anything be done? If people are willing to pay five times the face value for a ticket, then it signals that tickets are priced too low. Let the market price itself. Harry Styles is playing in my city, he's apparently very popular, but there's still plenty of tickets available for as low as 47€ for tomorrow.

> Why should anything be done?

Because there is demand for it. A lot of people like going to live music and theatre events and scalpers make it more difficult and more expensive for them.

Why shouldn't anything be done? Because capitalism is God?

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Post by redox99 »

OtherShrezzing wrote: post #43
ch4s3 wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is ultimately a supply and demand problem. If tickets sell out on the secondary market for 10 or 100x the face value, then that's the fair market price. Either artists should charge more, or perform more shows.

The last/marginal ticket in the venue sells for 10x face value. The majority of tickets don’t sell for much more than face value. Taylor Swift can’t realistically play more shows than she did during the Eras Tour, and it’s unlikely that she’d have sold a million seats in London if she were charging much more than she did.

> The last/marginal ticket in the venue sells for 10x face value.

That's only if the event sells out. The ticket should have sold for a higher price such that the demand was exactly the number of seats available.

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Post by rglover »

827a wrote: post #5

For those against this: I'm curious to hear your take on how you'd stop/mitigate scalping.

Go back to the old way. Get in line physically and go get the tickets. This is one of those "technology should help here but actually makes the problem worse in weird ways" type of situations.

Nine Inch Nails/Trent Reznor did this in 2018 and it was infinitely better (I also met a lot of people just standing in line—we recognized each other at the show later and ended up throwing each other around in the mosh pit—a great time) [1].

[1] https://www.nin.com/tickets2018/

Re: Spotify will start reserving concert tickets for fans

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Post by Barbing »

electronsoup wrote: post #19
joshl32532 wrote: post #10

This is the problem with public listed companies that need to "maximize shareholder values" and look for infinite growth. I just want Spotify for music (playlist, recommendation, lossless audio). I don't need their podcast, audiobook, ChatGPT, concert tickets etc. This just makes their app bloated for features I will never use.

You may need to move on to other services like Apple Music

Apple’s prioritization of Apple Music on their HomePod turns me off it a bit. Could help guide users more to alternatives but would reduce services sales.

Meh, I’m being kinda unfair b/c the experience is gonna be better. Shame Spotify forces streaming from phone (YouTube Music can run on HomePod itself like Apple Music). YouTube Music via HomePod might play the audio from a music video instead of playing the real song, so does make sense to shuttle normies to the Apple service, but guess I don’t find the situation perfect.

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Post by epiccoleman »

pavel_lishin wrote: post #33
jmuguy wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another reason to use Bandcamp and just buy music. Of course then you've gotta setup a whole stack to store it, make it available to your devices, etc etc. I dunno, Spotify certainly isn't going to get better at this point. Best we can hope is that they die and something better takes their place.

> Of course then you've gotta setup a whole stack to store it, make it available to your devices, etc etc. I have avoided building my own stack by uploading everything into Youtube Music (which used to be Google Music, which ... whatever.) It gets a little worse every day, and one day it'll get bad enough where the pain of sysadmining something new will be preferable to them.

I haven't set up my own stack for music, so I'm just guessing tbh, but administering Jellyfin has been completely painless. Let Claude write a docker compose file, toss it on the server, haven't had to think about it again. I bet there's something equally good out there for music management.

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Post by carlosjobim »

rglover wrote: post #74
827a wrote: post #5

For those against this: I'm curious to hear your take on how you'd stop/mitigate scalping.

Go back to the old way. Get in line physically and go get the tickets. This is one of those "technology should help here but actually makes the problem worse in weird ways" type of situations. Nine Inch Nails/Trent Reznor did this in 2018 and it was infinitely better (I also met a lot of people just standing in line—we recognized each other at the show later and ended up throwing each other around in the mosh pit—a g…

That excludes all fans who don't live in big cities. A lot of people travel just to go to shows.

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Post by basisword »

What a braindead move. If you see people post their "wrapped" you notice quite a lot of people basically streaming a single artist 24 hours a day. So now you're encouraging people to become streaming bots. And you're taking tickets from fans who don't happen to use Spotify. Fuck Spotify.

Re: Spotify will start reserving concert tickets for fans

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Post by carlosjobim »

ZeWaka wrote: post #14
317070 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Named tickets, like airplane seats? Sorry, I only thought about this for 5 seconds, but there are markets where scalping doesn't cause issues. We could look at those.

Still have the issue of transferring tickets to friends or such if you can't make it. Axios and some providers handle this.

If you "can't make it", you just have to eat the loss. True fans will make it.
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