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It’s crazy. Literally the only valid thing you can say about LLM use is “in the hands of an experienced person LLMs can be a force multiplier”. But no, we have to replace entire companies with it. All the problems of LLMs stem from inexperienced people using it (by inexperienced I mean not skilled in the domain in which the LLM is being applied).
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According to "experts", you have to suffer to make good art. She used a tool that reduced that suffering phase, so she's "garbage" now. I don't know about AI, but I think the main problem nowadays is that a growing number of people can only deal with binary categories, either it's godly or it's trash. To conclude, anything that is not written with a stone tablet is garbage.
What if you're a poet and use a rhyming dictionary now and then?
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I know calling anti-AI people luddites was considered a shallow strawman in 2024 but now I can't help but feel this position of "we should maybe slow down the developement and adoption of new tech to protect jobs / social order / the old way of life" fits luddism well?
I don’t know. I haven’t seen anyone who is brave enough to deserve to be called a (Neo) Luddite. People that have negative opinions about technological progress at least have the will to form an opinion backed by arguments. Contrast that with the faith order of dismissing negative opinions simply because they are negative about tech. Are technologist tech professionals? Or tech priests? (No wait, priests have to have…
It takes much more bravery—and much more than bravery—to first figure out which datacenters are actually hosting Gemini (or Claude, or ChatGPT, etc), then travel across the country or across the world to where they are, break into what's likely a guarded building, and finally...I guess blow them up? With explosives that are almost certainly illegal just to possess, in contrast to the tools that could be used to break the looms.
And even if they were able to succeed in all this, that would be one datacenter. For one LLM. And its owners would simply be able to route around the damage, and (at least from the sounds of things) there'd be three new datacenters to replace it already scheduled to finish the next week.
So tell us about how much "bravery" it should require to deserve the title of Neo-Luddite.
Because most people predicting the future don't like whats coming, and there's not many people interesting in actual predicting, I think the act of having a good idea of what's next makes the future less known.
(As I understand it), on the stock market, making a better day-trader bot makes the short-term squiggles of the price more random. Generalizing, if you know with really good odds what's going to happen a few months from now, and want to profit from it, I think there might be a similar effect. I'm not talking about insider trading or knowing which policies are going to be enacted, I mean just people who just forecast better with public info, that the act of better knowing what's going to happen makes the world more complex. (coordination issue?) I also think if like 70+% of the population was better/motivated at/to forecast stuff we would be better off.
Contrary to the chorus, I find this mad episode in our history has been going surprisingly well. I mean, it's a lot to process and the speed is ludicrous. What did we expect? What is the baseline? 80% approval in face of unprecedented uncertainty? We are adjusting, we talk about things. I hope we will keep doing that.
AI has ruined blogs, programming, killed girls in Iran and is used as an excuse for firing people. And you think it is going surprisingly well? It isn't. People are beginning to wake up now from their propaganda-induced sleep during the first three years. It is always the same. People are trusting and initially believe the con artists.
Programming hasn't been ruined, at least for me. I'm building more than ever.
The military had way more collateral damage pre-AI, so I don't see why you're blaming AI and not the people who used it.
I think it's going great so far, tbh.
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Don't forget deepfake harassment and spreading misinformation.
both around waaaay before LLMs
> both around waaaay before LLMs
Non sequitur. What's next? Are you going to tell me a musket and a machine gun are basically the same?
Previously, you had a tiny number of shitty, obvious photoshops. Now you have industrial nudification at scale.
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That's not the problem. There are two[1] problems. One is that a small group of people will own a critical part to all future economic activity. It's wealth consolidation at an unimaginable scale. The other is that the reason LLMs produce so much fucking garbage isn't because their users suck at their jobs. These users were producing good to passable work for years before LLM slop started flooding the world. It's bec…
> One is that a small group of people will own a critical part to all future economic activity. It's wealth consolidation at an unimaginable scale. You might want to read about the history of the term sabotage then. This actually is precedented. > The other is that the reason LLMs produce so much fucking garbage isn't because their users suck at their jobs ... bosses can't tell the difference between good work and fu…
Yes, history.
History reveals time and again that dislodging the powerful via lawlessness is not a sweet prelude to a better world. To be precise, even in the best case, at least a generation goes through hell before things stabilize.
I am not a big fan of "solutions" that dramatically introduce much bigger deeper problems.
Corruption is generally solved with more order. Not more disorder.
Cynicism borne out of frustration is not our friend.
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> One is that a small group of people will own a critical part to all future economic activity. It's wealth consolidation at an unimaginable scale. You might want to read about the history of the term sabotage then. This actually is precedented. > The other is that the reason LLMs produce so much fucking garbage isn't because their users suck at their jobs ... bosses can't tell the difference between good work and fu…
> You might want to read about the history of the term sabotage then. This actually is precedented. Yes, history. History reveals time and again that dislodging the powerful via lawlessness is not a sweet prelude to a better world. To be precise, even in the best case, at least a generation goes through hell before things stabilize. I am not a big fan of "solutions" that dramatically introduce much bigger deeper prob…
It’s crazy. Literally the only valid thing you can say about LLM use is “in the hands of an experienced person LLMs can be a force multiplier”. But no, we have to replace entire companies with it. All the problems of LLMs stem from inexperienced people using it (by inexperienced I mean not skilled in the domain in which the LLM is being applied).
I think of inexperienced people using power tools. Power tools theoretically make your life easier, but beginners will strip screws or snap bolts right and left. Or with ikea furniture the screw threads in the "wood" get pulled right out.
With screws or LLMs, craftsmen can speed up and do the finer details by hand.