Can someone just fork BitWarden into another open source project already? Maybe MorselGuardian lol
The quiet renovation at Bitwarden
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#72I just read the linked Fast Company article [0]. One question that particularly frustrates me about this process is: why are the former leadership of companies that become enshittified so quiet about it? Do they just get paid out with restrictive NDAs?
One of the only exceptions to this I can remember is the founder of Whatsapp, who gave an interview pretty critical of Meta some years back after it acquired Whatsapp.
[0] https://www.fastcompany.com/91542655/bitwarden-scrubs-always...
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It has a very “AI-written”-ish feel to it, FWIW.
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#74It seems like it’s probably time for a bitwarden client alternative. I’m already running vaultwarden, it’d be nice to have a community-run client. The bitwarden client apps are so mid already - it seems like it couldn’t be that hard to out do them.
I'd definitely give a Bitwarden client alternative a try, but I really hope this isn't the start of client fragmentation like it happened for Keepass, especially given that a server is involved here.
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#75Password protection by a for-profit (where the password protection is the product that you can't have unless you pay for it) is a fundamentally stupid and dangerous business model.
Waiting for everyone to understand this.
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#76I just read the linked Fast Company article [0]. One question that particularly frustrates me about this process is: why are the former leadership of companies that become enshittified so quiet about it? Do they just get paid out with restrictive NDAs? One of the only exceptions to this I can remember is the founder of Whatsapp, who gave an interview pretty critical of Meta some years back after it acquired Whatsapp.…
> Do they just get paid out with restrictive NDAs?
Yes, that's a very common part of an exit package for executives. Speaking from some first- and second-hand experience, you can get paid a hefty sum (6-12mo of salary worth of cash) for signing an agreement that has some amount of limits on what you can say, to whom.
There's also some kind of what I think of as a LinkedIn effect - there's a disincentive to talk trash about any organization publicly, since that's now attached to your name and might make future employers/organizations leery of hiring someone who might air their dirty laundry.
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#77what are some bitwarden alternatives?
Proton Pass. Not ideal but actively developing and IMO its UX is way better than what I had with Bitwarden.
I think once url matching is added (which is now on their roadmap[1]), I'll try making the switch from my current password manager.
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#78I have moved to KeepassXC[1] on my desktop from Bitwarden. On phone, I use KeepassDX[2] which is Android client compatible with KeepassXC. On browser, I use KeepassXC Browser extension which connects with the desktop client. Since KeepassXC operates on a single file, you can use any Filesystem syncing tool to sync that file between devices or to store it in the cloud. I am really happy with the move.
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#79It does seem like most password managers have no moat for import/export, so I’m kinda banking on the idea that I can quickly migrate to Proton Pass or vaultwarden if things get ugly.
I just don’t want to self-host if I can avoid it.
Staying on top of managing the application and the environment is a whole different level of diligence when the thing I’m self hosting is the keys to my life. At a minimum it would have to be behind something like a wireguard tunnel to a trusted machine, and that’s an added headache for daily use.
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#80I don't care about raising prices, I'm worried about the new CEO having a PE mindset. That means Bitwarden will now focus on extracting value while the product stagnates and degrades in quality. Time to jump ship before their security and quality goes down the drain.
I'm getting really tired of the enshittification cycle. Learning about android verification and captcha changes recently has been another big frustration point. I moved to android as a more open alternative to apple just a few years ago, and to bitwarden from lastpass around the same time. I would like to just have these infrastructural services work well and quietly without thinking about them for many years. Do I r…
Vendors doing a rug-pull isn't just capitalism. China is adding DRM to AM radio: old receivers won't work. Heck, Soviet WWII ration cards no longer give turmips.