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Re: London Police Deploy Facial Recognition at Protest for First Time

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Post by lorecore »

I'm staunchly pro-Palestinian, despise Tommy Robinson and still think this is not a good thing. The UK has been draconian with its anti-free speech and surveillance. Even if you hate what this guy stands for (I do), it's only a matter of time before these techniques are used against causes you do stand for.

Somehow I don't think Tommy Robinson would take such an approach to say the classification of Palestine Action as a "terrorist" organization by the UK government though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine_Action#Proscription_...

Re: London Police Deploy Facial Recognition at Protest for First Time

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Post by lorecore »

skippyboxedhero wrote: post #67
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> how about doing the same with the recurring 'pro-Palestine' manifestations? Genuine question: has there been physical violence (against people, not property) at their protests in the UK?

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Re: London Police Deploy Facial Recognition at Protest for First Time

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Post by aliasxneo »

elzbardico wrote: post #45
cjs_ac wrote: post #27

> Live facial recognition will scan the faces of those heading to the “Unite the Kingdom, Unite the West” rally in the borough of Camden, marking the first time the technology has been authorized for use at a protest in the UK. The rally was organized by activist Tommy Robinson who says the rally is for “national unity, free speech and Christian values.” Let's have a look at Tommy Robinson's Wikipedia article*: > Rob…

This is absolutely irrelevant. I don't fucking care whatever the police thinks a protest, any protest should turn into, because I don't want the police to have this power, because it will be abused.

Unfortunately the outcome of massive division. People are gullible enough to go along with it while it's not being used against "their people" until it ends up being too late.

Re: London Police Deploy Facial Recognition at Protest for First Time

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Post by bcraven »

krona wrote: post #48
cjs_ac wrote: post #27

> Live facial recognition will scan the faces of those heading to the “Unite the Kingdom, Unite the West” rally in the borough of Camden, marking the first time the technology has been authorized for use at a protest in the UK. The rally was organized by activist Tommy Robinson who says the rally is for “national unity, free speech and Christian values.” Let's have a look at Tommy Robinson's Wikipedia article*: > Rob…

> The Metropolitan Police are (justifiably) expecting this protest to turn into a violent riot Robinson has organised 4 London rallies in recent years and this is the second Unite The Kingdom rally. So what makes you think this will be the one which turns violent? It's basically families listening to speakers on a stage.

"Dozens of officers injured as up to 150,000 join Tommy Robinson rally"

Assistant Commissioner Matt Twist said officers had "policed without fear or favour", knowing it would be challenging.

"There is no doubt that many came to exercise their lawful right to protest, but there were many who came intent on violence."

Assistant Commissioner Twist said officers had suffered broken teeth, concussion, a prolapsed disc, a head injury and a possible broken nose.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwydezxl0xlo

Re: London Police Deploy Facial Recognition at Protest for First Time

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Post by greenavocado »

CTDOCodebases wrote: post #60
fidotron wrote: post #14

I'm old enough to remember when my colleagues were vigourously expressing concern about the potential for Oyster cards to be used to track who was protesting where. What remains astounding about the UK is how few people benefit from this enormous scale privacy invasion. David Cameron, while leader of the opposition, managed to get his bike stolen twice, and neither time did CCTV being literally everywhere help to fin…

This news from the UK is concerning and the UK is slowly turning into a dystopia but still your reasoning is flawed. The cameras are there to discourage crime and for use in court as evidence. Solving a crime still requires time and energy. Policing is a resources game. So of course petty crimes are still going to be committed because it’s resource intensive to have someone monitor all the cameras. That is until it i…

> slowly turning into a dystopia

*has already turned into a dystopian hell hole FTFY

At least China has more good weather

Re: London Police Deploy Facial Recognition at Protest for First Time

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

greenavocado wrote: post #76
CTDOCodebases wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This news from the UK is concerning and the UK is slowly turning into a dystopia but still your reasoning is flawed. The cameras are there to discourage crime and for use in court as evidence. Solving a crime still requires time and energy. Policing is a resources game. So of course petty crimes are still going to be committed because it’s resource intensive to have someone monitor all the cameras. That is until it i…

> slowly turning into a dystopia *has already turned into a dystopian hell hole FTFY At least China has more good weather

Where in the UK are you living, what's dystopian about it?

Re: London Police Deploy Facial Recognition at Protest for First Time

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

malfist wrote: post #65
basisword wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> A 31-year-old man who was wanted for voyeurism for more than six months. > A 41-year-old man who was wanted for rape in relation to an incident which took place in November in Croydon. >> These are all pretty low-hanging fruit. >> This is literally the "overpolicing" of petty crime critical race theory bemoans. You listed voyeurism and RAPE. I'll take one less rapist on the streets thank you very much.

People who give up privacy for security will get neither.

You think we should just let sex offenders roam the streets without apprehending them? Or it's only OK if you spent a lot of money to apprehend them, rather than picking people from a camera feed?

Re: London Police Deploy Facial Recognition at Protest for First Time

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

lorecore wrote: post #71

I'm staunchly pro-Palestinian, despise Tommy Robinson and still think this is not a good thing. The UK has been draconian with its anti-free speech and surveillance. Even if you hate what this guy stands for (I do), it's only a matter of time before these techniques are used against causes you do stand for. Somehow I don't think Tommy Robinson would take such an approach to say the classification of Palestine Action…

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