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AI is making me dumb
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#72I can't relate that much to this. Every time I use AI to write code, I'm constantly fighting a feeling on the back of my neck that I need to look over everything it has done and supplement/alter it with my own code. That ick feeling counteracts the dopamine hit of having a working app after a few minutes of vibe coding, and I don't think that's going anywhere anytime soon. That said, I have experience. I could absolu…
In my experience, Claude only knows how to spew code. Every problem you want it to solve, it translates into "more code" rather than "less code". You have to very closely code review everything it does, otherwise your codebase is going to just grow and grow, and asymptotically approach 100% debt.
I code review everything that Claude produces, and I'd estimate about 90-95% of the time, my reaction is WOW it works but too much code dude, let's take 3 hours to handhold you through simplifying it until nothing more can be removed.
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#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
Higher levels of abstraction require more complex levels of thinking. Why do you think it won't?
The entire point of abstraction layers is that they require less thinking most of the time (and, usually as a tradeoff, more thinking a minority of the time).
I'm not sure I agree with this at all.
I don't think I think less when writing Clojure or Rust than I would writing raw assembly code, I just broaden the scope of my projects to fill up my thinking capacity.
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#74I’m not using AI to eliminate thinking but to free me from the rote mundane code writing. AI is perfectly competent at writing code once a prototype is implemented.
I do write initial proof of concept crude prototypes (not commented, hardcoded variables, etc), and AI does the productionizing of them. It has really allowed me to command a team of agents instead of keeping track of a bunch of humans of varying work ethic, skill, and ability to maintain high code quality. And often AI is very good at maintaining patterns used in the code base or even keeping them to industry best practices.
When using AI you will no longer be writing so much in programming languages—English or whatever language you talk to the LLM will be the main language.
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#75God damn this nail gun is making me lazy, its like I don't have to swing the hammer any more...
Most people, given a nail gun, cant build a house, thats where the skill is...
Im not someone whose validation came from the lines of code, but from the resulting working system.
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#76We'll just move to a higher level of abstraction; thinking will be like efficiently coding in assembly, no longer necessary in today's world.
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#77We'll just move to a higher level of abstraction; thinking will be like efficiently coding in assembly, no longer necessary in today's world.
> ...like efficiently coding in assembly, no longer necessary in today's world.
Assembly is a stretch (albeit a few applications still need it), but otherwise that sentiment (and people who actually believe it) speaks a lot to me about what makes today's PCs slower, more latent, and less enjoyable to use than the machines of the past. Today's world sucks.
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#78I feel that few will have the privilege to have the time to write code by hand. And let's actually see what we are actually writing, most of the time for me its nothing novel, nothing fancy its the same old create a backend for X, fix some simple bug and stuff that are trivial for a mid-senior programmer. The harder tasks are mostly (again for us) architectural decision over the code and I am even thinking of how we…
Everyone has the time to write code by hand, because AI doesn't yield real productivity gains.
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#79AI use and low confidence are correlated with lower ownership and deferment of critical thinking skills.
Based on the MIT and MSFT studies.
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#80I can't relate that much to this. Every time I use AI to write code, I'm constantly fighting a feeling on the back of my neck that I need to look over everything it has done and supplement/alter it with my own code. That ick feeling counteracts the dopamine hit of having a working app after a few minutes of vibe coding, and I don't think that's going anywhere anytime soon. That said, I have experience. I could absolu…
> after a few minutes of vibe coding Don't vibe-code, it's a joke someone coined in the moment, that somehow the industry decided shouldn't be a joke, and some people think it's a feasible way of developing stuff, it's not. Find a better way of working together with agent, where you get the review what's important to be reviewed by a human, and "outsource" the rest, and you'll end up with code and a design that works…
There are tasks where it is appropriate to vibe code