The European Union backs Italy's right to make Meta pay for news

Post by SllX » Thu, May 14, 2026, 5:04 PM UTC

ksec wrote: post #57

neksn wrote: post #33

The demographics of this site have changed so much that people here are applauding… that it is now illegal to embed opengraph information on Facebook? This is deranged. And it only happens because the government is in bed with legacy media. The government being in bed with the media is awful for the common person. Embedding opengraph data is a clear case of fair use, and it’s sad to see all of this coming from a comm…

>The demographics of this site have changed so much that people here are applauding I don't think it has. Meta has been pretty much hated on HN since the beginning. And has only gotten worse and peaked during 2020. It is not about linking information, it is about Facebook.

Post by some_random » Thu, May 14, 2026, 5:08 PM UTC

tekla wrote: post #25

Scarblac wrote: post #14

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Because you're doing it voluntarily.

Did I hallucinate several years of discourse about volunteer work on the internet should be paid? And that lefty types were yelling about how billionaire corps should compensate volunteer work because they clearly had money? Something starting from Reddit mods?

Post by 4g » Thu, May 14, 2026, 5:09 PM UTC

ksec wrote: post #57

neksn wrote: post #33

The demographics of this site have changed so much that people here are applauding… that it is now illegal to embed opengraph information on Facebook? This is deranged. And it only happens because the government is in bed with legacy media. The government being in bed with the media is awful for the common person. Embedding opengraph data is a clear case of fair use, and it’s sad to see all of this coming from a comm…

>The demographics of this site have changed so much that people here are applauding I don't think it has. Meta has been pretty much hated on HN since the beginning. And has only gotten worse and peaked during 2020. It is not about linking information, it is about Facebook.

Post by anigbrowl » Thu, May 14, 2026, 5:14 PM UTC

gruez wrote: post #59

mcv wrote: post #47

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I don't think it's the demographics that have changed, but the state of the internet, and the awareness that big tech's stranglehold over our media is a problem. Of course the likely end result is going to be that legitimate news will disappear from Facebook and there will only be misinformation left. I'd rather see them address the spread of misinformation instead of the spread of quality news.

>I don't think it's the demographics that have changed, but the state of the internet, and the awareness that big tech's stranglehold over our media is a problem. The less charitable interpretation is that interest groups are just harnessing the current kneejerk reaction for anything anti-"big tech" to serve their own interests. See also: people being theoretically in favor of affordable housing, but are also against…

Post by nradov » Thu, May 14, 2026, 5:18 PM UTC

lokar wrote: post #52

neksn wrote: post #44

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They only show what the website gives them through opengraph tags. If the site doesn’t want to give up that information they can remove the opengraph tags. Even still, fair use should allow Facebook to summarise the contents of the link if they wanted to (but they don’t do that).

Sure, but then proper monopoly laws would ban most of what meta does.