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What the Hell Was Going on with Cigarette Ads in the 70s? (2024)

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Re: What the Hell Was Going on with Cigarette Ads in the 70s? (2024)

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Post by juleiie »

Pay08 wrote: post #63
juleiie wrote: post #47

I miss this awful habit so much. Ever since quitting years ago I never really recovered. It’s like 35% of my mental focus and clarity evaporated. All these moments when something had to be figured out suddenly things became easy if you only went for a smoke. Solutions became crystal clear obvious and effortless. At a price. Without it is always like a little bit of heavy fog is obscuring everything. That I know could…

Have you tried doing something similarly meditative instead?

I tried using matcha tea instead and it is kind of similar in that general direction but it doesn’t work quite the same mostly due to being constant effect for a few hours after a strong drink instead of a precise impulse.

It was alright for a couple of projects but the day I drink matcha is firmly a “matcha day” with its characteristic of great energy at first and then feeling kind of shitty the rest of the day. It shapes your day too much.

I am sure there are some substances that are similar to nicotine in mechanism and less harmful to the heart and blood thickening but they aren’t easy to get usually or aren’t well researched.

Despite all nicotine is fairly well known and tested on huge population not to mention virtually unlimited access for any interested adult.

Re: What the Hell Was Going on with Cigarette Ads in the 70s? (2024)

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Post by Pay08 »

juleiie wrote: post #71
Pay08 wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you tried doing something similarly meditative instead?

I tried using matcha tea instead and it is kind of similar in that general direction but it doesn’t work quite the same mostly due to being constant effect for a few hours after a strong drink instead of a precise impulse. It was alright for a couple of projects but the day I drink matcha is firmly a “matcha day” with its characteristic of great energy at first and then feeling kind of shitty the rest of the day. It…

I don't mean any sort of substance, but a habit. That can be consuming something (be it cigarettes or tea) but it doesn't need to be. I used to be in a similar position as you (except with food). I've found that doing something similarly meditative, in my case listening to music, achieves much the same effect as food did.

Re: What the Hell Was Going on with Cigarette Ads in the 70s? (2024)

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Post by RichardCA »

Here's a fun one, Benson and Hedges commissioned some classic 80's CGI, it got played at one of the art-house animation festivals that was a thing for nerds to do in the 80's. Looks like it was Robert Abel who did it.

But what was the point? It seemed like they were trying to sell gold collectibles to rich people in Malaysia.

https://youtu.be/fdBoKOpctp4

Re: What the Hell Was Going on with Cigarette Ads in the 70s? (2024)

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Post by tialaramex »

JKCalhoun wrote: post #67
tialaramex wrote: post #57

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> fossil fuel cars All or almost all of fire is my guess. My guess is that celebratory fire is last to go, bonfires, fireworks, in 2070 probably roasting marshmallows is at the edge of reasonable behaviour, but the idea that we deliberately burned things as part of normal life will seem very odd. In 1870 fire is the usual (and incredibly wasteful) way humans make light and heat everywhere. In 1970 there's more abstra…

Fires—interesting point. I'm in a neighborhood in Omaha, Nebraska that is maybe 5 years old—new housing development. There are no chimneys on any of the homes. When I was in the Bay Area, sure, not a surprise. I am surprised the Midwaste gives a shit. (To be sure, everyone seems to have fire pits in their backyards, ha ha. You take what you can get, I suppose.)

I don't think new builds in this country (unless they're large houses and it's for show) have had chimneys for close to fifty years.

Bathrooms needing an openable window for ventilation lasted longer than chimneys here and I guess those were gone by like the turn of the century because fans†?

Re: What the Hell Was Going on with Cigarette Ads in the 70s? (2024)

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Post by danaris »

silvestrov wrote: post #30
markyc wrote: post #10

what will our grand kids be shocked to read about us and our acceptable 'cigarettes'? plastic everywhere social media as news teflon fossil fuel cars sugar/ultra-processed food

> plastic everywhere. plastic will still be everywhere. The major catastrophe that could happen is for evolution of plastic eating bacteria like the creation of (dead) wood eating bacteria. Look at all the plastic containers etc you have in your kitchen and imagine it's just gone. > social media as news Mainstream news isn't going to get any better. > teflon teflon has gotten a lot better since it was introduced. It…

> The major catastrophe that could happen is for evolution of plastic eating bacteria like the creation of (dead) wood eating bacteria. Look at all the plastic containers etc you have in your kitchen and imagine it's just gone.

Look at all the wood you have in your house.

Notice that it is still there. Despite the fact that bacteria are very, very good at eating wood.

Even in the hypothetical case that bacteria evolve that can digest plastic, the idea that they would somehow instantly spread to consume all plastic in the world is ludicrous.

We would just need to take a few new precautions with it.

Re: What the Hell Was Going on with Cigarette Ads in the 70s? (2024)

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Post by asplake »

michaelbuckbee wrote: post #50
black_knight wrote: post #22

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I heard that air quality on planes was better back then (maybe someone who was alive then can confirm). Because of smoking they had to ventilate the whole aircraft much better. While these days I feel like they are just starving us for oxygen so as to not have to heat up fresh air.

Old person here. I think it's really hard to convey the extent to which smoke literally permeated everything. It's not just the immediate air quality aspects of it, but there was just a residue on all the surfaces, every cushion and fabric held onto the stuff. I can recall the week that no-smoking indoors at restaurants/bars passed and it was literally shocking to walk into a place and not have it be hazy. It really…

Another old person here. At an office in Zurich I saw a layer of smoke filling the upper reaches of the atrium. I wondered how many working (i.e. smoking) hours it would take before it reached the balcony on which I was standing.

Re: What the Hell Was Going on with Cigarette Ads in the 70s? (2024)

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Post by hbogert »

michaelbuckbee wrote: post #50
black_knight wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I heard that air quality on planes was better back then (maybe someone who was alive then can confirm). Because of smoking they had to ventilate the whole aircraft much better. While these days I feel like they are just starving us for oxygen so as to not have to heat up fresh air.

Old person here. I think it's really hard to convey the extent to which smoke literally permeated everything. It's not just the immediate air quality aspects of it, but there was just a residue on all the surfaces, every cushion and fabric held onto the stuff. I can recall the week that no-smoking indoors at restaurants/bars passed and it was literally shocking to walk into a place and not have it be hazy. It really…

except for the dance bars. Dear lord the sweat smell during the transition was bizarre. It as always masked thanks to the smell of smoke. I think a lot places had to start thinking about adding nice parfumes, because almost at the end of that first year of zero tolerance inside bars, it was 'solved'.

Re: What the Hell Was Going on with Cigarette Ads in the 70s? (2024)

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Post by collingreen »

cjrp wrote: post #12
ViktorRay wrote: post #8

It's so strange sometimes watching tv shows and movies from the 90's where you see characters smoking indoors in public places. Like in Seinfeld you will have episodes where Kramer is smoking in offices....and even in the doctor's clinic! There was an episode where Kramer took out a cigar and smoked in a doctor's waiting room. I thought he would immediately get in trouble but none of the other characters cared. And t…

Smoking on airplanes is the one that just seemed like an accident waiting to happen. And yet there were (relatively) few incidents caused by cigarettes.

Even the hindenburg had a smoking lounge! Included a bunch of extra tech to make that less dangerous in a giant explosive balloon.

https://www.airships.net/hindenburg-smoking-room/

Re: What the Hell Was Going on with Cigarette Ads in the 70s? (2024)

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Post by collingreen »

nxm wrote: post #34
markyc wrote: post #10

what will our grand kids be shocked to read about us and our acceptable 'cigarettes'? plastic everywhere social media as news teflon fossil fuel cars sugar/ultra-processed food

Covid vaccines to young and healthy individuals

Just Covid? Not all vaccinations for endemic disease they will definitely be exposed to?

If so, why just covid? If not, when is the right time, if any, to give vaccinations that appear to be very effective (or do we think the data is unreliable/dishonest here?).

I certainly have my own take here but I'm trying to ask a neutral question and understand your perspective before it gets downvoted away.

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