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Re: Tell HN: Dont use Claude Design, lost access to my projects after unsubscribing

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I`m sorry, that`s horrible situation. Coming from IT companies myself, I hope, that most likely they will receive your issue at some point and will act on it. Unfortunately, with all that fast paced development and race after new shiny thing to win user, companies might sacrifice quality. Only users can make an impact here - while we are buying new shiny stuff, things will happened. Investment in quality is expensive.

Re: Tell HN: Dont use Claude Design, lost access to my projects after unsubscribing

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A lot of these things are made fast and loose, and unfortunately this is the reality of using the bleeding edge. Even Figma went through this kind of thing very early on. To add something else to the discussion however, I'd encourage people to skip out on Claude Design for other reasons, and that is the inherent restrictions of LLMs for visual design. LLMs are blind, and spatial relativity is tremendously hard across…

If you say the image models don't "see" you also have to say the text models don't "read": there's a meaningful case to be made for either claim but then you're left saying "they behave as if they see" or "they behave as if they read".

Re: Tell HN: Dont use Claude Design, lost access to my projects after unsubscribing

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This is my experience too, but with all other aspects of the application. If you only loosely describe it, it comes out as a mess. You have to know what you're building to get the LLM to actually build something decent. I don't think this is purely a visual or design constraint.

When I'm using agents for programming, I can have a AGENTS.md outlining exactly what requirements, guidelines and constraints all the code need to follow, and the agent (codex in my case) will pretty much nail that. I've tried doing the same for design work, just really outlining exactly how the UI and UX needs to look and work, but for some reason it struggles a whole bunch with it, regardless of how clear I am. May…

I once worked at a startup where the CEO was originally a designer. He once spent two days huddled with the main designer for the product, trying to pick exactly the right font for the product. I have no idea how you'd have that kind of discussion with an LLM.

But then, I would not spend more than five minutes on this decision, so I'm probably the wrong audience for this ;)

Re: Tell HN: Dont use Claude Design, lost access to my projects after unsubscribing

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What do you mean LLMs are blind? All frontier models are multimodal, which means they literally consume images as tokens. They can “see” exactly as well as they can “read”. Also, GPT-Image-2 is not a diffusion model, it is based on Transformers, like other LLMs are.

Tokens are not a substitute for a numerical measurement. Ask a LLM how much time has passed. Watch it hallucinate wildly. Has anyone noticed that Opus has trouble building ascii diagrams (often leaves out spaces so lines are misaligned)?

LLMs are just one mechanical component. One might as well say "Ask your println how much time has passed". That is not a question that makes sense. As an example, I did not construct my agent specifically to answer your question and when I saw your question I queried the agent. And it is correct. https://imgur.com/a/j8j7hL9

As semiquaver said, modern LLMs are multi-modal, they can reason in image-space and audio-space as well as in text-space. It is not a translate then operate kind of situation. Claude Design is not a raw LLM, nor an instruction-tuned LLM. It is an agent harness around an LLM that allows it to do certain things.

Re: Tell HN: Dont use Claude Design, lost access to my projects after unsubscribing

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This has not been my experience. Claude artifacts at first, then Claude Design after it was released, are excellent at design! The way I can steer the model updating the design with different ideas and visions, even adopting different design systems like Material 3 or Apple’s HIG it has been phenomenal.

It's also by far the best in my experience at a request like "it's 3:55 and I need a few slides on the topic of the Gettysburg Address for a 4PM meeting." I wish it was more integrated into PowerPoint but it's still the best slide generator I've used.

I found gpt5.5 great at that too

Re: Tell HN: Dont use Claude Design, lost access to my projects after unsubscribing

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean LLMs are blind? All frontier models are multimodal, which means they literally consume images as tokens. They can “see” exactly as well as they can “read”. Also, GPT-Image-2 is not a diffusion model, it is based on Transformers, like other LLMs are.

I guess they do "see" but more like "see an explanation of the image", not "see" as in experience visually. They're really bad at details and perfection when it comes to images, and doesn't understand things like visual hierarchy, affordances and other fundamental design concepts. Most of them are able to describe those things with letters, but doesn't seem to actually fundamentally grasp it when asking it to do UIs…

> I guess they do "see" but more like "see an explanation of the image", not "see" as in experience visually.

Images are tokenized and fed to the exact same model, they can “visually inspect” images, eg “find the 2 differences between two images” and “where’s Waldo”-style things.

So your mental model that they see descriptions is inaccurate.

Re: Tell HN: Dont use Claude Design, lost access to my projects after unsubscribing

#80

tbh, backups matter. but nobody would accept Word deleting your files when you cancel Office. somewhere along the way we stopped distinguishing backup from custody.

Isn't that exactly why MS ties O365 to OneDrive like they do?
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