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GM just laid off IT workers to hire those with stronger AI skills

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Re: GM just laid off IT workers to hire those with stronger AI skills

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Probably should just replace their software engineers too. I don't mean to throw shade, but automotive software is so bad I'd bet my life that Claude could do better. Nevermind that the update cycle seems to be 6-10 months for changes like "You can now reset your radio presets directly from the radio settings menu", while bugs like temperature control resetting to max cool every start-up never get fixed.

I kept reading about how bad Android Auto was for years but we finally bought a more modern used car and I can't believe they would ship that experience to customers. I had a week where I just had to unpair and re-pair Everytime I got in the car. I would love to read about why that stuff is the way it is from the engineers, hmm that might be a good spelunking. I really must be missing something that makes it harder t…

Maybe they prioritized it low, assigned it to a group of 3 devs, and it functioned the first time they demoed it to management, so it shipped. All other devs would’ve been working on their in-house software.

Re: GM just laid off IT workers to hire those with stronger AI skills

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I can't tell if this is sarcastic or not, but it seems insane to let the AI write the tests. AI can't be held accountable, it shouldn't be writing the tests that determine whether car systems function correctly.

>AI can't be held accountable I hear this all the time. Why does it matter? Punishing a human for making a mistake does not prevent mistakes, nor does it undo the harm of the mistake. A human saying "my bad, I messed up" and an AI saying "my bad, I messed up" are equally worthless, in a functional sense.

Punishing humans does, in fact, prevent mistakes. Or rather, the threat of punishment causes people to be careful to avoid mistakes, and that prevents mistakes. Sure, this doesn't work 100% of the time, but it does work and has throughout human history. Meanwhile, there's no equivalent paradigm for LLMs.

Re: GM just laid off IT workers to hire those with stronger AI skills

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Yup thats exactly what they want Cheaper younger people who dont think vibe coding is bad Is this a good idea - probably not

It's a mistake. What you really want is senior engineers vibe coding. It would be like hiring a junior to lead a team. They're the worst choice for that role.

What you really want is nobody vibe coding, because then your stuff will actually work. But that doesn't get the stock price to go up by announcing your "AI focus".

Re: GM just laid off IT workers to hire those with stronger AI skills

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"We laid off engineers to hire engineers with stronger AI skills" is what 2026 sounds like when a company means "we laid off engineers to pay less." The AI wrapper doesn't change the trade, it just makes the wage cut quotable in the press release.

It's crazy that this still works for the companies. Anyone with any experience here knows whats happening. But the reporters can still just parrot whatever these companies say. Who cares if it's more lies, right?

Re: GM just laid off IT workers to hire those with stronger AI skills

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"Punishing a human for making a mistake does not prevent mistakes" This statement suggests you don't believe in some combination of neuroplasticity as a concept or the arrow of time.

Tell the families of the people who died on 737 MAX disasters. "Don't worry - everything's going to be okay! The engineers learned from their mistakes - accountability works, you have nothing to be sad about!" Tell the family of the person killed by a semi truck driver who showed up to work drunk or high: "Don't worry - the driver went to jail! Accountability prevented anything bad from happening!" Accountability alo…

"Accountability alone fails to prevent deadly mistakes millions of times a day"

...in his desperation to finally win an argument online our hero advanced, grimly ignoring the concept of Engineering.

"millions of mistakes are avoided daily through process, redundancy, independent review, and formal methods."

Ahh spoke too soon, Engineering has finally joined the chat. So what mechanism do you propose lead to the foundation of process, redundancy, independent review, and formal methods?

Re: GM just laid off IT workers to hire those with stronger AI skills

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If you wouldn’t let AI run your nuclear power plant, you need to drink more of the AI kool-aid.

All these luddites out here. The cats out of the bag. Get with the program. Give the AI nukes already.

You’re absolutely right! I shouldn’t have launched the nukes. Would you like to learn more about nuclear safety?

Re: GM just laid off IT workers to hire those with stronger AI skills

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US car software, ya, I've never seen such trash in my life. This said I don't really have any complaints about my Hyundai software. It works, doesn't crash, and does what I want it too.

My - admittedly 8 year old - Mitsubishi has atrocious UX. State resets itself at odd times (cruise control disables EV mode, and resets regenerative braking settings, eg.), preferences are forgotten, if I want to listen to the radio I have to cycle through AM before FM every time, the touchscreen is slow to respond, the WiFi password for connecting to the app can only be gotten from a dealer, buttons do different thi…

UX in my Audi Q5 (2024) is terrible. With two phones in the car you never know which one is connected and whose google maps is being currently displayed. And then come the buttons designed with a contempt for a driver. I recently had to change a flat tire which is a story in itself. German engineering is soooo different these days.

Re: GM just laid off IT workers to hire those with stronger AI skills

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> agent development, model engineering, AI-native workflows -- point directly at where large-enterprise demand is heading. I don't understand these words. Does "AI-native workflow" mean vibe coding? I am now seeing a lot of roles asking for "AI-enabled engineers". And I am not sure what that means either. I am sort of afraid to ask because the answer will probably confuse me even more. Maybe it's my understanding of…

You can just check any of the vacancies on their website to see what they're looking for.

Example: AI Agent Engineer (https://search-careers.gm.com/en/jobs/jr-202606937/ai-agent-...)

> We are seeking an AI Agent Engineer to design, build, and operationalize AI-powered agents that enhance employee productivity and decision-making in a complex enterprise environment. The ideal candidate combines strong AI/ML foundations, hands-on experience with agent frameworks, and a pragmatic approach to delivering business value in partnership with cross-functional teams.

Does not look like pure vibe-coding to me. More like developing wrappers over LLMs.

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