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People Hate AI Art

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Re: People Hate AI Art

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Post by csallen »

happytoexplain wrote: post #43
csallen wrote: post #40

List of things that the public despised when they were new: - Cars (expensive toys for the rich that endangered normal ppl and spooked horses) - Recorded music (similar complaints about it not supporting artists) - Bicycles (commonly called the devil's work) - Novels (morally dangerous) - Headphones / Sony Walkman (anti-social) I remember when chatting online was nerdy, anti-social, and uncool. Now celebrities casual…

Please, please stop with the AI analogies. Just make your argument on its own terms. "It's different from X" is no more meaningful than "it's the same as X".

> It's different from X"

The post doesn't even say "it's different from X". It just says "it's unfashionable," with no comparison or mention of history at all, as if this is the first time a new technology has ever been unfashionable immediately after its release.

> Just make your argument on its own terms.

I feel like my argument is obvious? The "unfashionable" period for useful-but-jarringly-new consumer-facing technology is common, predictable, and short-lived.

Re: People Hate AI Art

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Post by periodjet »

This trend of “everybody hates AI!” articles from bluesky people is becoming really tiresome. Every week it’s a new variant on that theme, and never substantiated. Major yawn.

Re: People Hate AI Art

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Post by operatingthetan »

periodjet wrote: post #72

This trend of “everybody hates AI!” articles from bluesky people is becoming really tiresome. Every week it’s a new variant on that theme, and never substantiated. Major yawn.

I talk to a lot of people not in tech and the divide is clear: they hate AI, they hate AI art, and they hate AI companies. They seem to hate it all less if they are unsure if it's AI, but that's a different discussion.

Re: People Hate AI Art

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Post by emccue »

jatora wrote: post #11
olivierestsage wrote: post #7

This post is right over the target. I see others posting that the author is out of touch, so here’s a humble +1 to the view that they’re not. Cathartic stuff here

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I mean, there is rational justification for why people feel the way they do.

It turns into a long tirade about how AI has made the median person's life worse and how they associate generated images with that. It could also be a short tirade.

But the point is more that it is that way, its not important (for the purposes of choosing whether to use AI art in a thing you distribute) _why_ people feel this way though, just that they do.

Re: People Hate AI Art

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Post by happytoexplain »

RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote: post #5

It seems like there might be just a small vocal minority that hates AI art. Most people probably don’t care. I bet there were painters in the 1800s who talked about how people hated photographs and how they were uncanny and creepy compared to paintings.

>It seems like there might be just a small vocal minority that hates AI art.

Certainly, clearly not

For now.

In the future, I despair that the next generations will adjust. Horrifying, but possibly true.

Re: People Hate AI Art

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Post by emccue »

periodjet wrote: post #72

This trend of “everybody hates AI!” articles from bluesky people is becoming really tiresome. Every week it’s a new variant on that theme, and never substantiated. Major yawn.

Yeah so, tech people tend to be in a bubble with regards to AI perception. I implore you to just ask around outside of your immediate sphere. Bring it up, let them talk.

Re: People Hate AI Art

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Post by emccue »

apsurd wrote: post #60
tptacek wrote: post #47

Corrected: a certain type of very loud and very online person in your audience hates AI art and thinks less of you for using it. But that doesn't matter, because the game theory they outlined is directionally right. The cohort of people who hate AI art is relatively small. But the cohort of people who love it is even smaller. People can generally spot it, and most people are indifferent to it. Having said that: I thi…

> A hero image at the top of a post: good, can be great, do it, make sure it's not AI. But like, a random dinosaur giving a thumbs up in the middle of the post? Don't do that at all. That's a weird intentional example to make: spam-adjacent marketing content needs a stock art hero image, but a random dinosaur randomly inserted into a random post shouldn't be done at all?

In this case the random dinosaur is plot relevant albeit just a placeholder, but maybe i'm not following what they are complaining about?

Re: People Hate AI Art

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Post by happytoexplain »

periodjet wrote: post #72

This trend of “everybody hates AI!” articles from bluesky people is becoming really tiresome. Every week it’s a new variant on that theme, and never substantiated. Major yawn.

I'm sorry - you are in a bubble. Humans, on average, hate the idea of genAI art, specifically.

Re: People Hate AI Art

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Post by emccue »

roenxi wrote: post #35
meander_water wrote: post #18

I think one of the reasons for sloppy images is that non-artistic people don't have the vocabulary to describe images to be produced in interesting styles. Yes, you can do image-> text on existing styles, but something always gets lost in translation. Midjourney probably has the best baseline, and --sref is a really easy way to differentiate

More even, something AI is quite bad at is combining different imaginative elements. Compare the AI dinosaur in the article to the commissioned dinosaur. The commission has a vibe created by the eye expression and the glasses. I'd maybe call it chill. The thumb-up is present but it isn't leading the vibe, we might infer that it is something the dino is doing because he is chill. The gesture is only a tiny part of the…

(do give the artist more commissions. They need to eat and are on my shortlist for stuff like this. Here's a sexy Jar-Jar Binks/Garfield hybrid they made https://bsky.app/profile/dsoart.com/post/3ml2f4aqsf22t)
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