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Six years perfecting maps on watchOS

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Re: Six years perfecting maps on watchOS

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The fact that there is no 1st party Apple made hiking and topography map on the Apple Watch is such a failure, not even on the most expensive “made for explorers” Watch Ultra. And things like gpx import is just a mere dream It’s a lifestyle device after all but still

> no 1st party Apple made hiking and topography map on the Apple Watch I regularly use hiking and topography maps on my Apple Watch with the first party maps app, so it sure what you’re talking about

That's a regional feature not available everywhere

Re: Six years perfecting maps on watchOS

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The use of the cartographer to generate separate designs and the technology used to render/deliver those designs are two entirely separate concerns. His original map provider offers both vector and raster tile services: https://www.thunderforest.com/maps/outdoors/ A common pattern is to use a vector tile service + style definition directly or to generate raster tiles if those are desired.

Good point, I assumed he was using images because his screenshots show text perfectly following the curves of rivers, which seems hard to do with dynamic rendering.

That’s the point of a vector (not raster) tiles. Wh do you say it is hard to do with dynamic rendering? With Maplibre or any modern map SDK this this is standard…

Re: Six years perfecting maps on watchOS

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The fact that there is no 1st party Apple made hiking and topography map on the Apple Watch is such a failure, not even on the most expensive “made for explorers” Watch Ultra. And things like gpx import is just a mere dream It’s a lifestyle device after all but still

Apple is so intent on making the Apple Watch a catch-all that it doesn’t necessarily do any specific activity amazingly. After three Apple Watches over many years I finally sold my 10 last year and won’t be buying another. I bought a Coros and am pretty pleased with it, would consider a Garmin in the future. Coros and Garmin devices are built with activity in mind and not unneeded apps, like Uber. Garmin and Coros bo…

And I am happy with my Huawei GT-6 41mm. Looks like an actual real watch unlike the Apple ones, does everything Apple does, just no third party apps. Guess what, never needed one. Battery lasts a week instead of a day. Very refreshing to end the day with 91% battery left rather than 11%.

Re: Six years perfecting maps on watchOS

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How do you expect the developers to pay for the service? Map tiles alone are already very expensive and data heavy.

https://openfreemap.org

This is just outsourcing the payment to donations...that may or may not arrive ("We aim to cover the running costs of our public instance through donations.").

Re: Six years perfecting maps on watchOS

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The fact that there is no 1st party Apple made hiking and topography map on the Apple Watch is such a failure, not even on the most expensive “made for explorers” Watch Ultra. And things like gpx import is just a mere dream It’s a lifestyle device after all but still

But we can have apps and developers like David on the Apple Watch. This is what makes it different from Garmin, where you need the company to build pretty much everything.

Re: Six years perfecting maps on watchOS

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How do you expect the developers to pay for the service? Map tiles alone are already very expensive and data heavy.

Render tiles locally on iOS companion app side

That's not what they were talking about

Re: Six years perfecting maps on watchOS

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How do you expect the developers to pay for the service? Map tiles alone are already very expensive and data heavy.

https://openfreemap.org

Thank you for sharing this; however, given a significant piece of the author's journey was hiring a cartographer to create custom map designs for his use case, I suspect that this might not be directly suitable for him, any more than Apple Maps was.

This would presumably transfer the need to host map data back to the author, which would represent an ongoing cost, and therefore maybe justify a modest subscription?

Re: Six years perfecting maps on watchOS

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> there is no 1st party Apple made hiking and topography map on the Apple Watch is such a failure I remember a time when Apple was chided for integrating functionalities of popular apps into its OS. Apple created an incredibly awesome device, and its up to the market to make full use of its potential. Why would it be a failure for Apple to not make such an app?

Because they don't allow deeper integrations maybe? I still don't have a watch face layout I like.

When Apple uses private APIs that are forbidden to developers on the App Store to compete with them it's not exactly fair.

So I wouldn't say it's a failure that they don't do that even more often.

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