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First Tesla Semi Rolls Off High-Volume Production Line

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Re: First Tesla Semi Rolls Off High-Volume Production Line

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Post by adrian_b »

rayiner wrote: post #20
alterom wrote: post #2

"High volume"? Coming from Tesla, I'll believe it after they actually ship a high volume of those units.

The Model Y is neck-and-neck with the Toyota RAV4 as the most widely sold car model in the world.

Whenever such claims were made, it was correctly pointed that Tesla makes very few models, so their sales per model may be higher than for other vendors even when the total number of sold cars is higher for their competitors, where the sales are distributed over many models.

There are Chinese vendors who sell more electric cars than Tesla.

Re: First Tesla Semi Rolls Off High-Volume Production Line

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Post by apexalpha »

narrator wrote: post #8
Animats wrote: post #6

Nice. Tesla claims they will "ramp up" production to 50,000 units per year. When does the 100th unit roll off the line? Let's see some actuals. Tesla's volume and delivery time estimates do not have a good history of reliability. Volvo has 5,000 electric semitrucks on the road right now. Tesla also announced that MDB Drayage is using Tesla tractors to haul container chassis around the Port of Los Angeles.[1] But the…

The Tesla semi is the only truck with a 500 mile range. So it does have an advantage over other electric trucks for long-haul trucking.

500 miles with what weight?

Re: First Tesla Semi Rolls Off High-Volume Production Line

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Post by defrost »

DonHopkins wrote: post #68
defrost wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you seen the demo's of "truck pack" batteries being removed from prime mover, transferred to charge station, replaced with already charged truck pack, all done with a mini fork lift? It's a 15 minute roll in / roll out kind of turn around. The game's not over and the big transport operators (eg: Rio Tinto mine fleets moving a billion tonne per annum, etc) are still doing the R&D pipeline and trialling pilots.

I've seen Tesla's fake robots too. Maybe they can pay people who lost their jobs to DOGE to dress up in Spandex and dance like robots to replace the batteries. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsNc4nEX3c4

Meanwhile, in Oz (and middle earth NZ), where the boring companies actually bore km's of usable tunnel:

* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTRHEtfdxOo

* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlOxqhWbsk4

and at least one other battery swap prototype are all being actively piloted.

You can keep Tesla, cheer's.

Re: First Tesla Semi Rolls Off High-Volume Production Line

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Post by apexalpha »

real0mar wrote: post #49
tzs wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn't regenerative braking reduce brake dust, not tire dust?

Correct. And tire dust increases because electric vehicles are usually heavier

I doubt that's the case in America where gas-powered cars (/ trucks) are also huge and heavy.

A Model 3 weighs less than a Ford 150.

Re: First Tesla Semi Rolls Off High-Volume Production Line

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Post by dzhiurgis »

aggakake wrote: post #48
AtlasBarfed wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you provide more detail on the Pepsi trials? I haven't read anything about it

With the Frito Lay trials there were numerous cases of the Tesla trucks dying and needing to be towed by ICE trucks.

That’s why it is called a trial

Re: First Tesla Semi Rolls Off High-Volume Production Line

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Post by ZeroGravitas »

The Chinese EV truck market is already bigger than the entire US truck market.

Tesla has some lofty goals but sometimes it feels like that story about the pottery class where the teacher offered to grade by weight alone.

The moral of that story is that churning out lots of something is a good way to learn what you are doing and get better at it.

Re: First Tesla Semi Rolls Off High-Volume Production Line

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Post by SapporoChris »

rayiner wrote: post #20
alterom wrote: post #2

"High volume"? Coming from Tesla, I'll believe it after they actually ship a high volume of those units.

The Model Y is neck-and-neck with the Toyota RAV4 as the most widely sold car model in the world.

I am not convinced this is true. But perhaps you are using different criteria than this source.

For example the Toyota Corolla has sold 50 million, the Model Y, slightly over 2 million.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_automobil...

Re: First Tesla Semi Rolls Off High-Volume Production Line

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Post by mgoetzke »

donkyrf wrote: post #36
claytongulick wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand the point you're making, are you saying that because there are already electric semi's on the market, Tesla shouldn't compete? Or are you being critical that Tesla didn't enter the market first? If it's the second point, are you accurately comparing the vehicles and their capabilities?

It's not newsworthy. There are more than a dozen companies shipping electric semis in low quantities, and at least three who have been shipping and supporting them for years. Anybody who thinks this the Tesla Semi is notable should go learn about the existing market. Tesla announced this thing a decade ago and they rolled one off of a theoretical line. Who cares? There's nothing new here. There's no new information a…

Of course its newsworthy if the company making the most electric cars in the world has setup a factory to produce semis and produced at least one after years of testing with actual customers that say they are very happy at seemingly very competitive pricing.

To say its NOT newsworthy betrays a bias against Tesla which I would assume has nothing to do with actual facts.

Re: First Tesla Semi Rolls Off High-Volume Production Line

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Post by mgoetzke »

adrian_b wrote: post #71
rayiner wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Model Y is neck-and-neck with the Toyota RAV4 as the most widely sold car model in the world.

Whenever such claims were made, it was correctly pointed that Tesla makes very few models, so their sales per model may be higher than for other vendors even when the total number of sold cars is higher for their competitors, where the sales are distributed over many models. There are Chinese vendors who sell more electric cars than Tesla.

Which ones ?

Re: First Tesla Semi Rolls Off High-Volume Production Line

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Post by ben_w »

ZeroGravitas wrote: post #76

The Chinese EV truck market is already bigger than the entire US truck market. Tesla has some lofty goals but sometimes it feels like that story about the pottery class where the teacher offered to grade by weight alone. The moral of that story is that churning out lots of something is a good way to learn what you are doing and get better at it.

Indeed. Two ironies: I was just thinking about this with SpaceX getting all the practice with launches. Also, China being theoretically communist and the US theoretically capitalist, yet the US is the one with limited choice while China has so many brands.
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