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Drone pilot makes US rescind no-fly zones around unmarked, moving ICE vehicles

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Re: Drone pilot makes US rescind no-fly zones around unmarked, moving ICE vehicles

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Drones are already regulated. You aren't allowed to fly higher than 400' AGL without ATC authorization, an altitude chosen because it has special significance in the National Airspace System. Nor are you allowed to fly in the vicinity of an airport without authorization.

This particular restriction we're talking about was completely unjustifiable. But the regs exist, and they aren't just made up nonsense. They're the result of systems engineering and a real risk management process.

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> Which means any criminal convictions would be thrown out. and in the meantime people rot in jail but i guess no harm no foul :shrug:

Not to mention the monetary costs of defense

Against all that it seems miserly to complain about the costs of destroyed, seized, lost drones, equipment, gates, doors et al that will never be reimbursed.

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Drones are already regulated. You aren't allowed to fly higher than 400' AGL without ATC authorization, an altitude chosen because it has special significance in the National Airspace System. Nor are you allowed to fly in the vicinity of an airport without authorization. This particular restriction we're talking about was completely unjustifiable. But the regs exist, and they aren't just made up nonsense. They're the…

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In no way is that the most important point of the article, especially when you are cherrypicking that sentence and deleting part of it and still don't include how the updated guideline is still ambiguous. You are the "shit writer" here and commenter. "On April 15, the FAA removed the no-fly zones by replacing the sweeping flight restrictions with a “national security advisory” titled NOTAM FDC 6/2824. The revised not…

> You are the "shit writer" here and commenter.

Your comment is just as good w/out this. ( https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html )

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For whatever it’s worth, I don’t think these rules would stand under the APA. Which means any criminal convictions would be thrown out.

> Which means any criminal convictions would be thrown out. and in the meantime people rot in jail but i guess no harm no foul :shrug:

> in the meantime people rot in jail but i guess no harm no foul

Nobody claimed no foul. Constraining a problem isn't the same as saying it's not one.

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Before you know it, they'll be detaining people without legal representation, shipping them to overseas black sites, and murdering citizens in the street. Oh, wait that's been the entirety of this treasonous administration.

> Oh, wait that's been the entirety of this treasonous administration. That's been the case for at least 25 years. Still bad, but not new or unique to Trump. I'm too young to have a good idea of what the pre-Patriot Act American military/intelligence/secret police was like, but the historical stuff that comes to light from time to time doesn't lend much confidence that they were all that much better - they just did i…

"The authoritarianism is getting worse and more accepted" is not a great response here.

Re: Drone pilot makes US rescind no-fly zones around unmarked, moving ICE vehicles

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Given the astronomically high legal cost to individuals, the sheer presence of arbitrary enforcement can already cause a lot of fear and damage.

There was a recent high profile of a case where a woman in Tennessee was accused of a crime in North Dakota. She spent months in jail, where she lost her car, home, and her dog. She was not even in the right state, and her life was destroyed. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47563384

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