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Dutch central bank ditches AWS and chooses Lidl for European Cloud

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Re: Dutch central bank ditches AWS and chooses Lidl for European Cloud

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Post by petterroea »

retired wrote: post #5

Years ago I was making the case that instead of digging ourselves into the Amazon eco-system with S3 storage, EC2 instances, DynamoDB and various other Amazon specific cloud products... we should just host virtual machines and have everything in there using open source products. People looked at me like they saw water burning but that would have made the dependency on the US a lot easier to sever. Just move the VM's.

For those who grew up with aws and other cloud providers this is the only reality they know of, after all.

Re: Dutch central bank ditches AWS and chooses Lidl for European Cloud

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Post by manquer »

croes wrote: post #43
tomschwiha wrote: post #30

The title is heavy clickbait. To say I just bought a Porsche when it was actually a Volkswagen is also wrong. Just because they belong to the same owner doesn't make it the same brand.

It’s actually the other way around. Porsche is a Volkswagen but a Volkswagen isn’t necessarily a Porsche. VW bought Porsche

Kinda, VW indeed owns Porche AG 100% today.

However it was more complicated than that. Porche owned 50+% of Volkswagen at the time of Volkswagen buying them. Porche got over extended and leveraged buying Volkswagen . The management family is closely connected since the start and at the time in early 2010s 20% government ownership rule was just getting stuck down by European courts .

Re: Dutch central bank ditches AWS and chooses Lidl for European Cloud

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Post by lelanthran »

tt24 wrote: post #37
retired wrote: post #5

Years ago I was making the case that instead of digging ourselves into the Amazon eco-system with S3 storage, EC2 instances, DynamoDB and various other Amazon specific cloud products... we should just host virtual machines and have everything in there using open source products. People looked at me like they saw water burning but that would have made the dependency on the US a lot easier to sever. Just move the VM's.

This is great, your suggestion to replace s3 and ddb is to run some VMs? I don’t blame people for being skeptical

> This is great, your suggestion to replace s3 and ddb is to run some VMs?

Well... yes?

What do you think the AWS S3 and DDB is running on? Fairy dust?

Re: Dutch central bank ditches AWS and chooses Lidl for European Cloud

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Post by stuaxo »

retired wrote: post #5

Years ago I was making the case that instead of digging ourselves into the Amazon eco-system with S3 storage, EC2 instances, DynamoDB and various other Amazon specific cloud products... we should just host virtual machines and have everything in there using open source products. People looked at me like they saw water burning but that would have made the dependency on the US a lot easier to sever. Just move the VM's.

S3 has become a standard outside of AWS but everything else can be done with open tools except IAM which is always a pain anyway.

Re: Dutch central bank ditches AWS and chooses Lidl for European Cloud

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Post by close04 »

The missing background piece is that the European Commission awarded a 180m EUR sovereign cloud contract to 4 European providers [0]. This framework agreement made the choice of national banks a lot more straight forward.

[0] https://commission.europa.eu/news-and-media/news/commission-...

Re: Dutch central bank ditches AWS and chooses Lidl for European Cloud

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Post by tgv »

guywithahat wrote: post #2

> DNB Director Steven Maijoor announced last October that he intended to “set a good example” and switch to a European cloud, though he acknowledged that it “is not yet as robust or high-quality as the one from the U.S.” > Last year, the Dutch Central Bank (DNB) and the Netherlands Authority for the Financial Markets (AFM) warned that the Dutch financial sector had become too dependent on foreign IT service providers…

AFAIK, the central bank is independent.

Re: Dutch central bank ditches AWS and chooses Lidl for European Cloud

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Post by fodkodrasz »

AndroTux wrote: post #46
croes wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s actually the other way around. Porsche is a Volkswagen but a Volkswagen isn’t necessarily a Porsche. VW bought Porsche

Yes, that's what they're saying. LIDL doesn't have a cloud. The Schwarz Group does.

Too bad, a LIDL branded cloud would be something really well marketable. Cloudside services (a'la Parkside)... or something along these lines.
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