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Re: Notepad++ for Mac – Independent community port

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Post by jeffnash »

steve1977 wrote: post #64
jeffnash wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Love me some WinSCP too.

Panic Transmit no good?

Now that's a throwback and is definitely my goto on macOS. I remember I did a bunch of chores in order to buy a Visa gift card just to purchase it. Was much easier than explaining to my parents what SFTP was and why I needed to borrow their credit card. I just googled it and it's good to see they're still around.

Perhaps it's just nostalgia, but I feel like 2006-12 (before the Mac App Store took off) was the golden age of Mac software. There were those ~$100 'app packs' that bundled a bunch of different software together. You'd buy it for 2 or 3 of them and end up discovering some cool new software in the process.

Re: Notepad++ for Mac – Independent community port

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Post by omnimus »

cosmic_cheese wrote: post #65
omnimus wrote: post #50

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Recent editions of MacOS look so bad that Windows might actually be better designed (if it weren't for all the windows ads and spam). Gnome is starting to become the nicest desktop environment lol.

I’ve not been a fan of the Liquid Glass changes, but it’s similar enough that I’ve been able to get used to it. Fluent on Windows doesn’t look too bad but MS hasn’t made particularly great use of it and parts of the OS still don’t use it. GNOME/Adwaita get some things right, and other things wrong (the padding everywhere is way too thick, its crusade against menu bars is odd). It’s also so minimal that it makes macOS…

Gnome is the only linux DE that tries to be consistent (probably due to more centralised decision making). I think that makes it most likely to be most user friendly over time.

Re: Notepad++ for Mac – Independent community port

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Post by MBCook »

denalii wrote: post #35
internet2000 wrote: post #22

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New switcher on his brand new MacBook Neo who doesn't want to learn Mac apps and conventions? Guaranteed this person uses a Windows "Alt-tab" style switcher app too.

Granted I've only been using MacOS for a few years as my work machine, but am I missing something here? Is the Mac CMD+tab already not nearly identical to to windows alt+tab? Are you just referring to the switcher switching through apps vs windows?

On Windows alt-tab moves through windows.

On Mac cmd-tab moves through applications. You need cmd-~ to move through an application’s windows.

It’s a small difference but one that really breaks muscle memory.

Re: Notepad++ for Mac – Independent community port

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Post by MBCook »

internet2000 wrote: post #22
MBCook wrote: post #4

Why? I get it’s popular on Windows. But it’s so incredibly Windows-y, not Mac like at all. And we already have BBEdit and Nova. Perhaps the site answers past “you like it here it is”, but at the moment we appear to have slashdotted them.

New switcher on his brand new MacBook Neo who doesn't want to learn Mac apps and conventions? Guaranteed this person uses a Windows "Alt-tab" style switcher app too.

Why switch? Thats a huge part of the Mac. The design, UI, and UX conventions exist for a reason.

If you’re going to spend all your time fighting them you’re in for a rough spell.

Re: Notepad++ for Mac – Independent community port

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Post by elheffe80 »

At home I have a MacBook, but everything else I use is Linux. At work, I am stuck on windows 99% of the time for most work. I manage Linux systems, but mostly through the windows desktop. I use notepad++ every single day. I lamented not having it on my Mac, but every replacement is not... right? comfortable? implemented right? I don't know. Still haven't found something that does what little I use in notepad++ and I can tell you now this app's ui is not what I am looking for.

Re: Notepad++ for Mac – Independent community port

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Post by cosmic_cheese »

omnimus wrote: post #72
cosmic_cheese wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve not been a fan of the Liquid Glass changes, but it’s similar enough that I’ve been able to get used to it. Fluent on Windows doesn’t look too bad but MS hasn’t made particularly great use of it and parts of the OS still don’t use it. GNOME/Adwaita get some things right, and other things wrong (the padding everywhere is way too thick, its crusade against menu bars is odd). It’s also so minimal that it makes macOS…

Gnome is the only linux DE that tries to be consistent (probably due to more centralised decision making). I think that makes it most likely to be most user friendly over time.

The consistency is one of the things it gets right, but it’s undermined by its sheer bare-bonesness, which brings people to try to augment it with extensions, but those constantly break due to functioning by way of monkeypatching GNOME internals.

I think the idea of a “blank slate” DE that you build up with extensions is actually great, but a highly capable stable extension API is non-optional for that to actually work. I can’t have half my customizations vanishing or breaking overnight due to a system update.

Re: Notepad++ for Mac – Independent community port

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Post by MBCook »

omnimus wrote: post #50
cosmic_cheese wrote: post #40

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Goes for Linux too. I have the flexibility to adjust to platforms other than macOS but I’d rather not have to. My setup works for me and having to change it is annoying and drags down productivity. In my case it’s more intense than usual because I’m a visual person and my productivity suffers for things like my desktop environment, theme, etc not looking “right”. When using Linux for anything more “serious” than stud…

Recent editions of MacOS look so bad that Windows might actually be better designed (if it weren't for all the windows ads and spam). Gnome is starting to become the nicest desktop environment lol.

Nope. Not even close.

Yeah the Mac GUI has declined.

But it’s still far better than the incoherent mess of the last 15 ways MS were totally the future mashed together in random places.

Windows has had great points. 95 era was fantastic. 2000 too, and I liked XP though third party apps went nuts.

Modern Windows is none of those. I’ll keep my somewhat messed up Mac.

Re: Notepad++ for Mac – Independent community port

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Post by steve1977 »

jeffnash wrote: post #71
steve1977 wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Panic Transmit no good?

Now that's a throwback and is definitely my goto on macOS. I remember I did a bunch of chores in order to buy a Visa gift card just to purchase it. Was much easier than explaining to my parents what SFTP was and why I needed to borrow their credit card. I just googled it and it's good to see they're still around. Perhaps it's just nostalgia, but I feel like 2006-12 (before the Mac App Store took off) was the golden a…

Agreed and it's probably not only the App Store but also the fact that iOS took away the spotlight from macOS.

Back then, the iPhone was still the companion to the Mac, not the other way round.

Re: Notepad++ for Mac – Independent community port

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Post by cosmic_cheese »

MBCook wrote: post #77
omnimus wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Recent editions of MacOS look so bad that Windows might actually be better designed (if it weren't for all the windows ads and spam). Gnome is starting to become the nicest desktop environment lol.

Nope. Not even close. Yeah the Mac GUI has declined. But it’s still far better than the incoherent mess of the last 15 ways MS were totally the future mashed together in random places. Windows has had great points. 95 era was fantastic. 2000 too, and I liked XP though third party apps went nuts. Modern Windows is none of those. I’ll keep my somewhat messed up Mac.

I thought that MS had a good thing going on with the refinements in Aero brought by Windows 7. It nicely balanced a modern theme with a traditional desktop model and it still respected the user while bringing some massive QoL improvements.

Had Windows 8 been further refinement into the Fluent design language along with unifying lingering Win9x style panels into the Vista/7 style, it would’ve been massively popular and more beloved by users than XP or 7. Instead, Microsoft decided to forget non-touch devices entirely and saddle the desktop with an ugly theme reminiscent of Windows 1.0/2.0 in a botched attempt to make it fit in with the flat Metro touch UI bits.

Re: Notepad++ for Mac – Independent community port

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Post by [deleted] »

reikonomusha wrote: post #47
Hard_Space wrote: post #46

Not really understanding the negative trend of comments. As someone who accesses multiple Windows machines on a LAN via a MacBook Air, I'm glad to have as many common GUIs as possible. I found it a bit hard to get used to BBEdit when I started using a Mac again, and have been a Notepad++ lover for many years. So, thanks to the dev for this.

I've noticed this more recently on HN. Either the top comment has to be some negative sentiment even if seemingly good-faith, or a comment on something completely tangential (like the color of the website), or a comment on their own project that's related to the thing posted but it feels more like look-at-me advertising rather than earnestly engaging with the submission. Some of these go against the guidelines, but m…

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