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Re: Ubuntu 26.04

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Post by foresto »

satvikpendem wrote: post #7

What should I use if I like Ubuntu but not snap, just Debian? Or are there alternatives around? Seems like Ubuntu has the best hardware and driver support so just curious what's new in Linux land.

I switched to Debian and have been happy with it. The release cycle is less frequent than Ubuntu Desktop, which means fewer disruptions, and Debian Backports make it easy to pick new versions of the important stuff. Flatpak is also available on Debian.

Linux Mint is widely praised for being basically Ubuntu without the worst Canonicalisms (such as Snap). They maintain a Debian edition in parallel to their main one, as an exit strategy in case Ubuntu ever becomes unsuitable for their base. Some people already use that as their daily driver.

Just in case you're not aware, the default desktop environment on whatever distro you pick doesn't have to be what you use. I switched to KDE Plasma when Gtk-based desktops became intolerable, and haven't looked back.

Re: Ubuntu 26.04

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Post by SkiFire13 »

PaoloBarbolini wrote: post #66
WD-42 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Select middle click not working is a stupid decision from GNOME to disable in 50. You can turn it back on with the tweak tool.

Why do we still put up with GNOME? I've spent the last 10 years off and on from Linux. Had I used something other than GNOME, I believe my experience would have been better. I've been on KDE for the last 3-4 years and things work so well I could never imagine going back to GNOME.

> Why do we still put up with GNOME?

Because maybe not all people have the same preferences as you?

Re: Ubuntu 26.04

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Post by cwillu »

notabotiswear wrote: post #59
kleiba2 wrote: post #32

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...and it's a great thing. Turning it off is another one of those GNOME decisions that are only made because the same feature does not exist in MacOS.

To you it is, plenty of people -including myself- don’t find it so. And considering the ratio of MacOS+Windows desktop users to those of ‘nix (an increasing number of which are new converts), middle clickers are a minority here. But hey! At least they are only flipping defaults, not removing the feature outright, like they did type-ahead search. [Insert angry rant here]

That is gnome's standard play: move a feature to a preference (“you can just turn it back on”), remove the preference from the control panel (“you can still turn it back on using ‹whatever conf backend they're using this year›”), and then finally remove the feature (“you could only turn it on by using an unsupported mechanism, and ‹conf backend they used last year› is deprecated anyway”).

Re: Ubuntu 26.04

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Post by scns »

nine_k wrote: post #63
jl6 wrote: post #41

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Did they publish some rationale somewhere? It’s a useful feature.

Neither Windows nor macOS have it, so it's surprising to new users. If your target market (as in support contracts) is EU public servants, it's sort of understandable.

it's surprising to new users (in a good way, i was happy when i found it) let's remove it.

Re: Ubuntu 26.04

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Post by littlecranky67 »

WD-42 wrote: post #20
teekert wrote: post #19

It's nice as always, but I have some issues. * Select - Middle-click paste does not seem to work * When something requires a password (ie just tried a bitlocker volume) the whole screen is blocked, so no password manager for you (unless you copy it before, or cancel - unplug drive-copy password - replug drive - paste.) * The default tiling does not jive with me, sometimes I don't even know what it wants (it always tr…

Select middle click not working is a stupid decision from GNOME to disable in 50. You can turn it back on with the tweak tool.

It is a preference - and not everyones. I always hated middle click paste, middle click is amongst the first thing I remap on my systems to do the macOS "exposé"-style of window rearrangements. Other people will have other preferences.

Re: Ubuntu 26.04

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Post by littlecranky67 »

LtWorf wrote: post #55
Sol- wrote: post #49

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Jesus, do the people who work on GNOME even like Linux?

In Icaza's case I think he just always wanted to work for Microsoft. I don't know about the less famous developers though.

Well he did, in the end until he quit Microsoft (and Linux) and moved to macOS/iOS and Swift development.

Re: Ubuntu 26.04

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Post by IshKebab »

nine_k wrote: post #60
throwa356262 wrote: post #40

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That was a lot of CVEs Goes to show that not all security bugs are memory related bugs

Indeed, many bugs are API usage bugs, something that no language can verify. (The API is implemented in C anyway.)

No, but some languages make designing difficult-to-misuse APIs a lot easier than others.

Re: Ubuntu 26.04

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Post by scorpioxy »

After using Ubuntu for many years both on the desktop and server, recent decisions have got me thinking that Canonical has lost a lot of its community spirit. That got me switching over machines to Debian which, to me, still feels like a community project. It's a shame.

I am pragmatic about it though so I still run Ubuntu for some things but it's no longer my first recommendation.

Re: Ubuntu 26.04

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Post by dmos62 »

alprado50 wrote: post #42
compounding_it wrote: post #8

Ubuntu LTS is still the choice for many production environments and education and learning. As someone with Ubuntu from 2010 CDs, I find it refreshing that modern Ubuntu distros work OOB on most computers these days with excellent driver support.

Is this even true? I mean, Windows is the main focus for all hardware vendors, and everybody who has owned a PC knows that malfunctions are unavoidable. If that is the case for Windows, then Linux cant be better.

Linux has been better for old hardware since early 00s. Just don't expect hw acceleration to work for older GPUs.

Re: Ubuntu 26.04

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Post by nreece »

satvikpendem wrote: post #7

What should I use if I like Ubuntu but not snap, just Debian? Or are there alternatives around? Seems like Ubuntu has the best hardware and driver support so just curious what's new in Linux land.

Linux Mint.
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