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Palantir Wants to Reinstate the Draft

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Re: Palantir Wants to Reinstate the Draft

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Doesn’t ycombinator and hacker news have links with this company? Makes it hard to maintain the hacker ethos when this entire site seems so closely linked with such forces.

Between idiotic tech bros who wouldn't know a war if it bit them on the butt promoting a draft because they don't think they'd be drafted and HN having links with Palantir/Karp I think I'm done with this site.

Re: Palantir Wants to Reinstate the Draft

#72
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Karp has a right to his opinion as bonkers as it may be but it is doubly bonkers to release this as company policy. Especially coupled with all the other bonkers things that went into this manifesto. Rearming Germany and Japan? Why does Palantir care about that? Toss in some unsubtle racism and you're really just staking your company position as aligned with a very narrow political niche. Seemingly at odds with the c…

> Rearming Germany and Japan? Why does Palantir care about that?

New markets to sell genocide tools to.

Re: Palantir Wants to Reinstate the Draft

#73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> These days, what are American soldiers dying for? Israel

more likely big tech and the oligarchs. (The name of my next punk band.)

You restated his point less succinctly.

Good name for a punk band though.

Re: Palantir Wants to Reinstate the Draft

#74
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> This Big Tech Firm Wants To Reinstate the Draft I still cannot help but look at Palantir as a company that just sends $ to the "oligarchs". I still wonder what real value Palantir provides the US Gov. After reading the article, are they looking for cheap tech labor. Is that because no one in tech wants to join the military due to pay ?

Different deployments of Palantir Foundry exist in the US gov't/military and do provide real data science/analytics value.

> After reading the article, are they looking for cheap tech labor. Is that because no one in tech wants to join the military due to pay ?

Cyber in the military has abysmal retention because of the pay. You can get an immediate ~$50k pay raise doing the same work as soon as you leave the military.

Re: Palantir Wants to Reinstate the Draft

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> These days, what are American soldiers dying for? Israel

more likely big tech and the oligarchs. (The name of my next punk band.)

more likely, investment bankers class and war profiteers with their friends!

Re: Palantir Wants to Reinstate the Draft

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> By saying they "should be required", you are promoting the idea that their desire for war is acceptable as long as they codify certain standards, which they are able to use their powers to personally circumvent. I am not.

I absolutely read it as promoting war.

Well you are absolutely wrong.

Re: Palantir Wants to Reinstate the Draft

#78

The Nazi government would not have gotten this far without the help of industrialists and oligarchy.

The CEO of Palantir, Alex Karp, has extensive ties to the Israeli government and is a self-avowed Jewish-supremacist. Peter Thiel was also featured extensively in the Epstein Files, and the two collaborated on creating Palantir to serve Israeli interests.

Re: Palantir Wants to Reinstate the Draft

#79

Other countries have compulsory military service, for example Finland. Generally speaking I am a fan of the idea that everyone should be required to do some kind of community service for 2 years once they turn 18. Military service would just be one option, could be other kinds of civic engagement. This can really help people feel connected to their society and understand that there is something to show up for. BUT -…

Spoiler alert: military "service" is an oxymoron. No American has served me by joining the military and killing black, brown, and asian women and children

Re: Palantir Wants to Reinstate the Draft

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Other countries have compulsory military service, for example Finland. Generally speaking I am a fan of the idea that everyone should be required to do some kind of community service for 2 years once they turn 18. Military service would just be one option, could be other kinds of civic engagement. This can really help people feel connected to their society and understand that there is something to show up for. BUT -…

I like the idea of civic engagement / service in theory too, but I feel like the Vietnam war was a demonstration of possible failure modes when draft is in place: a lot of poor kids died, some rich kids allegedly used parental influence to dodge the draft. No incentive for leaders to avoid war while loop holes remain for their own interests.

People greatly overestimate the number of Vietnam vets who were drafted.
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