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The "Passive Income" trap ate a generation of entrepreneurs

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Re: The "Passive Income" trap ate a generation of entrepreneurs

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my favourite bit was 8 Free to do what? Sit on a beach, apparently. Every single one of these people wanted to sit on a beach. I've never understood this. Have they been to a beach? There's sand. It gets everywhere. You can sit there for maybe three hours before you want to do literally anything else. 8 I laughed out loud when I read it, because it's so true.

I “retired” about a year ago. Back to actively doing some tech industry analyst stuff with some folks I know. Keeps me as busy as I care to be.

I would dearly love to be as busy as I care to be.

Re: The "Passive Income" trap ate a generation of entrepreneurs

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I “retired” about a year ago. Back to actively doing some tech industry analyst stuff with some folks I know. Keeps me as busy as I care to be.

I would dearly love to be as busy as I care to be.

Right? That's my ultimate goal.

Re: The "Passive Income" trap ate a generation of entrepreneurs

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This article really felt like a misdiagnosis to me.

Sure, a lot of these people were just buying hype from these "get rich from drop shipping!" influencers, just like a million other suckers who got dollar signs in their eyes with real estate schemes, pyramid sale schemes, yada yada, a tale as old as time. I don't think this "passive income" trap is really anything new, and I don't think it was some unique thing that "ate a generation of entrepreneurs", as if that trap didn't exist then instead we'd see all these successful people.

Instead, what I think has drastically changed over the past 40 years or so is the ability of a solopreneur to make real money. Just look at all the posts on HN asking about how much people make on their side gigs. You rarely see anything more than a couple hundred bucks a month. There are notable exceptions, but unfortunately a lot of those notable exceptions are scammy, spammy business models. It's just simply much harder as a small/smaller business to make money and compete with the big boys. Wealth inequality doesn't just apply to people, but also companies. For example, in the past many entrepreneurial types may have started retail stores, while now it's incredibly difficult to compete with the likes of Amazon et al. I read an article recently that the number of public companies has halved compared to a few decades ago. The Wilshire 5000 stock index, for example, actually only includes about 3400-3700 companies now.

Re: The "Passive Income" trap ate a generation of entrepreneurs

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It’s not totally risk-free income (but what is) but a decent pile invested sensibly makes for pretty good passive income depending on your goals.

now where do you get that pile to invest? I have a pile invested - but I'm close to retirement and it took me many years to save it up.

By working and investing. More successfully at some points than others. But you’re totally right that different people are better set up and more or less inclined to move on from a job than others.

Re: The "Passive Income" trap ate a generation of entrepreneurs

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One thing in the article struck me as way too optimistic: > What actually makes money hasn't changed. You find something people need. You get good at providing it. You charge a fair price and you keep showing up even when it's tedious and even when you don't want to. You build relationships over years. You build reputation over years. You can make money doing this, yes--but most people who are really rich don't. Ther…

She does just mention passive income covering your monthly spend, which to be fair is not ‘really rich’.

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"Rent seeking" has a specific definition* and it is not "I use large capital investments to generate regular payments". Buying housing with the intent of renting it is not rent seeking. This is Wikipedia, which is as good as most other definitions: Rent-seeking is the act of growing one's existing wealth by manipulating public policy or economic conditions without creating new wealth

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Let me guess..you have an equal disdain for people who own hotels, rental cars, or work as an UBER driver.

All these things involve renting out something to fill a temporary need.

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I love the beach. Living near the beach is nice. You can sit on it, walk on it, swim on it, surf on it, run on it, fish on it. Better than a cement sidewalk, IMO.

I love the ocean , but I have to confess I don't care much for beaches. sand gets everywhere.

A lot of beaches happen to be near oceans.
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