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Picasso’s Guernica (Gigapixel)

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Post by gonzalohm »

netol wrote: post #55
gonzalohm wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's weird about the high speed rail network? Is it that all lines go through Madrid? Some people like to bring that up when talking about how Madrid gets everything. But the alternative to that is building the line through the middle of nowhere. If you are going North-South or East-West, it makes economical sense to stop in Madrid

The fact that Valencia and Barcelona are still not connected, for example

I think that's already in the works. The normal train is around 3 hours (1 hour less than driving). So it's understandable that it wasn't a top priority

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Post by rainingmonkey »

germandiago wrote: post #58
Synaesthesia wrote: post #22

Guernica shocked the world. It was the start of aerial bombardment of civilians, something which we have sadly normalised since WW2. but which I regard as terrorism. Picasso also painted another great work titled "Korea" in the same vein. War is an abomination, something we should all fight against.

I am spanish and I know the details better than you I presume. Guernica was in many ways something both the british and republicans made stand out for propaganda. There have been far worse things in the spanish civil wars. For example Cabra was bombed in a day of market with the intention of killing and without being any kind of strategic strategic objective, way further than Guernica from other objectives and with m…

>with the intention of killing and without being any kind of strategic strategic objective

Wikipedia says "The airstrike was carried out in the mistaken belief that Italian mechanized troops were stationed in the village. Once over the target, the pilots mistook the market's awnings for military tents." (Carlos Saiz Cidoncha, 2006)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Cabra

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Post by rainingmonkey »

Synaesthesia wrote: post #22

Guernica shocked the world. It was the start of aerial bombardment of civilians, something which we have sadly normalised since WW2. but which I regard as terrorism. Picasso also painted another great work titled "Korea" in the same vein. War is an abomination, something we should all fight against.

>It was the start of aerial bombardment of civilians

Mine owners hired planes to bomb striking miners at the Battle of Blair Mountain in 1921

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Post by downut »

armedpacifist wrote: post #27
downut wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When we visited that room in 2012 or so the walls on the other 3 sides had Picasso's studies for the final painting. The combination of those in proper size context to the astounding thing on that wall was... I dunno, very hard to bear? Chills and goosebumps. Just being in the presence of such genius. [Edited to add: I forgot! Many of the studies are clearly over complicated and colorful. And then you turn to see wha…

In the autobiography of Man Ray, who was a good friend of Picasso, it's mentioned that the sketchbooks are not preliminary studies, but sketches that came _after_ he finished the painting. Aparently Picasso was still so outraged after finishing the painting, he had to keep going. Man Ray scoffs at the museumguides who explain the sketchbooks as preliminary when according to him they are not. Their original intent add…

I'll take your word for it (Man Ray's) because... Picasso. It's interesting to contemplate though because those studies/sketches/whatever are Picasso, they're great, better than just about anybody who ever painted, but pale next to Guernica.

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Post by garethsprice »

dominictorresmo wrote: post #62

I don't understand why picasso is famous and considered a great artist

I didn't either until I saw some of his early paintings and learned he was a brilliant classical painter from a very young age (eg. "Portrait of aunt Pepa", at 14). The later surrealism and abstraction weren't due to a lack of technical skill, but his deliberate choice to create a new visual language that would reflect the rapidly changing world around him.

That shift also reflected the era he lived in - one where visual arts played a central role in the cultural conversation - making him a true part of the zeitgeist that is hard to imagine now when visual art feels less central and more inward-looking.

A lot of what feels cliche now started with him, it only feels commonplace now as his influence was so massive.

Imagine being born in 1850 when everyone got around on horseback and paintings were realistic portrayals of people, landscapes, religious figures in muted tones. Impressionism (Van Gogh etc) arrives and is considered radical, then in 1907 you see _Les Demoiselles d'Avignon_ with its bright colors and abstract depiction of cavorting prostitutes. It would certainly provoke a reaction. The 20th Century had arrived.

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Post by heyitsmedotjayb »

Daub wrote: post #33

In Madrid’s military museum there is a little known painting done as a right wing responce to Guernica - The Paracuellos Massacres" (Las matanzas de Paracuellos) by José Gutiérrez Solana. The subject is the massacre of Spanish civilians by the Republican forces. It is almost as large as Guernica and done in a realistic style. As an obscure counterpoint to Guernica it has a curiosity value. It borrows heavily from the…

Good point - our understanding of this time period has been clouded by knee-jerk hatred, with few willing to admit that there was violence on all sides. It takes bravery to admit that a proportionate and measured response was warranted (within the bounds of international rule of law and order), given the pressures and incentives that communists were putting on Franco.

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Post by alphakappa »

habosa wrote: post #19

I went to Spain as a teenager and saw Guernica in person. It was the first painting to ever really have an effect on me. It's stunning. A perfect example of how art can transmit a message between people across time and space, I just knew that I was feeling how Picasso wanted me to feel. If you have the chance to see this painting you should, no website can do it justice (although this is a very nice try).

It is stunning, particularly so if you read up on the history beforehand and then see all the elements in the painting. It’s the first time I was able to appreciate a Picasso for all the complexity he put into his paintings.

I was similarly stunned by one of the Anselm Kiefers at the Bilbao Guggenheim. Some paintings can only be appreciated in person.

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Post by gasi »

Theodores wrote: post #17

I had high hopes for the tiled image formats, which began with Microsoft Seadragon, a project they took on and closed down, as is the way. Fortunately someone forked OpenSeadragon, which is such an under-appreciated tool. Good to see an implementation. If anyone wants to do their own tiled images, creating the tiles is the hard part, and the image processing toolkit VIPS will do that bit for you.

“Die Hoffnung stirbt zuletzt” (Hope dies last)

Keep the hope up! I created OpenZoom in my early 20s, then interned at Seadragon, and almost 20 years later, I still want to make it a reality.

Let me know if you have ideas for use cases / applications!

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