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Session is shutting down in 90 days

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Re: Session is shutting down in 90 days

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Post by racuna »

A few months ago, a Session update logged me out. I tried to log back in, but my passphrase caused Session to crash. I tried the Play Store version, the F-Droid version, and the desktop version.

Support told me that login method had been around for a while, and I didn’t know it. So suddenly, I was locked out and couldn’t access MY ACCOUNT. I used to promote Session, but since their support response was basically a big “fuck you,” I say “fuck you too,” and I hope people switch to SimpleX.

Re: Session is shutting down in 90 days

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Post by miroljub »

johnisgood wrote: post #47
833 wrote: post #30

Not sure why it's always a binary: either give us $1M or we shut down. Vast majority of products and services can continue on or near zero, with slow or zero velocity. Really, you can't fire half the team if you have to and keep operating? 1.75M MAU requires very small infrastructure.

Yeah, there is no way they need $1M for the servers, come on...

God forbid someone get paid for their work.

Re: Session is shutting down in 90 days

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Post by malfist »

oofbey wrote: post #62
coldpie wrote: post #14

I feel like a crazy person for having to write this, but: if you are starting a business (yes, non-profits are businesses), then you need to have a business plan. If you launch a business and you have not done the work to have a business plan, then in 99.999% of situations, your business will fail. A business plan includes market & competitive research, a revenue plan based on that research that includes realistic pr…

Privacy enthusiasts tend to align with anarchists - people who intrinsically distrust institutions. Maybe this also correlates with qualities like blind optimism, or disbelief in institutions like capitalism?

> Privacy enthusiasts tend to align with anarchists

That's a mighty broad brush you're painting with over there.

Re: Session is shutting down in 90 days

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Post by Ms-J »

Session was Australian based which means they would have to do all sorts of horrible things when asked by the government, such as even letting police impersonate users...

I just checked and they claim to have moved their infra to Switzerland.

There are many other issues, some I've forgotten about since I would never trust it in the first place. They also require a phone number even!

Seeing them go, I feel neutral. It's always good to have more anonymity software, just not this for me.

Re: Session is shutting down in 90 days

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Post by Arnt »

esskay wrote: post #40
AugieDB wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For a senior developer, $150,000 is about right. I'm looking at the latest half dozen jobs I've seen on LinkedIn for open senior developer positions and they all start at that number, and range up to $185k to $200k. Digging a little deeper, I see some th atstart well above that number, but it's for the huge companies you're thinking of -- Google, Netflix, Github.

Time to broaden their hiring pool then, $150k is double the cost of a senior developer in many other parts of the world (yes including English speaking first world countries). When you've got 90 days till the doors close you cant be picky about your hiring pool.

Read the posting. They dont have money for a team, they don't have money for a senior developer. Whether $150k/FTE or $75k doesn't matter, because they don't have either of those.

Once the server and other costs have been paid, the have money for... maybe a part-time junior in Cambodia.

Re: Session is shutting down in 90 days

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Post by roryirvine »

esskay wrote: post #46
kilroy123 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That salary is not unheard of at all in London. Especially when you convert £ to $.

Sure but Londons known for being high wages. Now change that location to Cornwall or the North of England and watch it get almost cut in half.

Manchester is only about 10% below London, other cities along the M62 are about 15% below according to the salary benchmarking data I've seen. The bigger difference is more in the number and type of available roles.

That salary would be above the median for most perm senior dev positions in London, but still well within the usual range for established tech companies and well-funded startups.

Re: Session is shutting down in 90 days

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Post by INTPenis »

mhitza wrote: post #2

Never heard of them, and this page doesn't tell me what they do, but I've laughed at this line > In most markets Senior developers often command salaries exceeding $150,000 USD per year Not really, there's basically a single sub-market in the US market where that is the norm.

>Never heard of them

They're big on dark web drug markets.

Re: Session is shutting down in 90 days

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Post by mrhottakes »

rvz wrote: post #49
ramon156 wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Id do it for 1/3rd!

Claude (or any other chatbot) can do it for 1/100th of the cost and faster than anyone. So $150k+ is overpriced.

this is true, Claude and other LLMs are highly skilled at producing secure code
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