What providers offer nowadays coding plans, so no pricing per tokens, just api call limit and a monthly fee. Which are affordable?
Reallocating $100/Month Claude Code Spend to Zed and OpenRouter
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Re: Reallocating $100/Month Claude Code Spend to Zed and OpenRouter
#72Our bank (a major retail bank in UK) is refusing doing business with OpenRouter and OpenRouter issued a refund which we did not request. So something is up. There is that. I might be paranoid but I feel that access to models will become more constraint in the future as the industry gets more regulated.
OpenRouter accepts crypto for payments. That should have raised some flags with banks.
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#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
You are absolutely allowed to expose access to end users, as long as you continue to abide by terms of service. We have hundreds, if not thousands, of apps built on openrouter that in turn have end users of their own. We showcase many of them on our /apps ranking page!
I was actually wondering about this since I've seen like 3 comments talking about the same thing, would it happen to be related to money laundering due to the availability of the crypto payment method?
The comments are all from the same author.
OpenRouter recently started enforcing account-level regional restrictions for providers that enforce it (OpenAI, Anthropic, Google) - ie blocking accounts that look like they are being used by users in China. The regional restriction used to be based on the Cloudflare edge worker IP's geolocation and enforced upstream, so a proxy/server running inside of supported regions would get around the geoblocks, but now OpenRouter are using (unspecified) signals like your billing address to geoblock. People say "banned" because the error message says "Author is banned", which really should be read as "Unable to use models from provider due to upstream ban".
Re: Reallocating $100/Month Claude Code Spend to Zed and OpenRouter
#74I also dropped Claude Code Max. I switched to OpenCode Zen + GitHub Copilot. For some reason, Claude Code burns through my quota really quickly. https://opencode.ai/zen
How does Claude Code compare to OpenCode Zen? I’m on the $20/month Claude plan, and was considering OpenCode Zen as well. Due to the quota changes, I actually find myself using Claude less and less
I mostly use Opus via Copilot with opencode, and I'll tell you, in the past few days, I've had long sessions (almost the whole day) without hitting rate limits. That's very different from Claude Code, which used to rate-limit me before even halfway through the day.
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#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
How does Claude Code compare to OpenCode Zen? I’m on the $20/month Claude plan, and was considering OpenCode Zen as well. Due to the quota changes, I actually find myself using Claude less and less
I mostly use Opus via Copilot with opencode, and I'll tell you, in the past few days, I've had long sessions (almost the whole day) without hitting rate limits. That's very different from Claude Code, which used to rate-limit me before even halfway through the day.
Just cancelled my Claude plan, so that I can switch over when it expires in a week. The usage limits somehow just make me less productive with it.
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#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is your source code worth only $40 for them to train their models on? https://www.techradar.com/pro/bad-news-skeptics-github-says-...
Considering how much data they already have from everything that's on GitHub, I doubt you would make a dent boycotting their AI product.
And don't you think they're going to realize soon that it's also pretty good at "doing penetration testing" for your company when it's already trained on your company's source code?
Re: Reallocating $100/Month Claude Code Spend to Zed and OpenRouter
#78People may feel differently about the fee that OpenRouter takes, but I think the service they provide is worth the extra cost. Having access to dozens of models through a single API key, tracking cost of each request, being able to run the same request on different models and comparing their results next to each other, separating usages through different API keys, adding your own presets, setting your routing rules..…
I agree with you in certain circumstances, but not really for internal user inference. OpenRouter is great if you need to maintain uptime, but for basic usage (chat/coding/self-agents) you can do all of what you mentioned and more with a LiteLLM instance. The number of companies that send a bill is rarely a concern when it comes to “is work getting done”, but I agree with you that minimizing user friction is best.
For general use, I personally don’t see much justification as to why I would want to pay a per-token fee just to not create a few accounts with my trusted providers and add them to an instance for users. It is transparent to users beyond them having a single internal API key (or multiple if you want to track specific app usage) for all the models they have access to, with limits and logging. They wouldn’t even need to know what provider is hosting the model and the underlying provider could be swapped without users knowing.
It is certainly easier to pay a fee per token on a small scale and not have to run an instance, so less technical users could definitely find advantage in just sticking with OpenRouter.
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#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
You pay openrouter with dirty crypto, then you have a business which simply resells openrouter giving you clean fiat. I think openrouter specifically only banned those kind of accounts since that's what I have observed from other comments / research. numlocked in this thread has explicitely said that they don't ban accounts for any of the reasons specified above which narrows down the scope to some form of broken ToS…
And then you go on HN and post "you don't have the right to do what you want"? Yeah, FUD and good riddance if so.
You are not allowed to resell Openrouter as an API yourself, so for example if you make a service that charge per token, you can't use Openrouter API for that, this is specified in their ToS, so no, you can't do what you want, what FUD?
Quote from their own TOS: access the Site or Service for purposes of reselling API access to AI Models or otherwise developing a competing service;
Re: Reallocating $100/Month Claude Code Spend to Zed and OpenRouter
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Reluctantly, the dev seems to have a stinky attitude. He went on an "OSS vacation", which is perfectly reasonable and said he'd be back on a certain date. I had a PR open for a trivial fix, someone asked when it would land. I shared he was still away. After his return I politely asked, "@badlogic hey, what can we do to progress this? Thanks x" I then got what I would consider an abusive reply, because he confused me…
> Honestly, it seems you are grumpy, so it was probably a good idea to extend that vacation. Being rude just creates a more toxic environment for everyone. Maybe extend that break for the rest of the month and come back nicer? Thanks Honestly, it seems like both of you were feeling a bit "grumpy" at the moment, but sending passive aggressiveness towards the maintainer you are trying to get to merge your code (or not…
You know, when I wrote that I genuinely meant it, or at least I think i did. It wasn't supposed to be passive aggressive. :(
But that doesn't negate the maintainer talking to people like that (and taking contributions without attribution).. and the net result is I don't want to use the software, and frankly they probably won't miss me.. so the end result is neutral.. I just find it sad.