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The AI Great Leap Forward

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Re: The AI Great Leap Forward

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Post by badbadforyou »

ShacosTacos wrote: post #70
upsetpotato wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, people being able to access accounts via recycled phone numbers is not good (this wasn’t their first time either lol and they’ve been fined for similar stuff before by Swedish regulators) Then the KYC bypass allowing fraud rings to buy 20k worth of products with stolen identities is outrages. Then the IPO stuff… That entire thing is a mess and there’s so many issues with their F-1A and being dishonest. Though t…

The AI isn't a breakthrough; it's a distraction from the fact that the company's security and finances are a mess. It’s quite funny to now see Klarna offloading their security issues onto other companies (Google) while simultaneously suing them for $8 billion (PriceRunner v.s Google).

Yeah true, mid 2025 they announced it as “A.I innovation” and “collaboration” to fix AP2 without announcing the company then came back late 2025 to say it’s a collaboration with “Google” for security payment protocols etc — While also simultaneously suing Google for 8 billion with their company Price Runner lol.

I guess they were having security issues for a while now and a few have been publicized recently which are the ones you’re talking about, but they kinda fit into the same issues they’ve had in the past and have been fined for like said by @upsetpotato

Re: The AI Great Leap Forward

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Post by westthebest »

badbadforyou wrote: post #71
ShacosTacos wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The AI isn't a breakthrough; it's a distraction from the fact that the company's security and finances are a mess. It’s quite funny to now see Klarna offloading their security issues onto other companies (Google) while simultaneously suing them for $8 billion (PriceRunner v.s Google).

Yeah true, mid 2025 they announced it as “A.I innovation” and “collaboration” to fix AP2 without announcing the company then came back late 2025 to say it’s a collaboration with “Google” for security payment protocols etc — While also simultaneously suing Google for 8 billion with their company Price Runner lol. I guess they were having security issues for a while now and a few have been publicized recently which are…

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Re: The AI Great Leap Forward

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Post by younan »

badbadforyou wrote: post #71
ShacosTacos wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The AI isn't a breakthrough; it's a distraction from the fact that the company's security and finances are a mess. It’s quite funny to now see Klarna offloading their security issues onto other companies (Google) while simultaneously suing them for $8 billion (PriceRunner v.s Google).

Yeah true, mid 2025 they announced it as “A.I innovation” and “collaboration” to fix AP2 without announcing the company then came back late 2025 to say it’s a collaboration with “Google” for security payment protocols etc — While also simultaneously suing Google for 8 billion with their company Price Runner lol. I guess they were having security issues for a while now and a few have been publicized recently which are…

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Re: The AI Great Leap Forward

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Post by vrighter »

latentsea wrote: post #36
hperrin wrote: post #18

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AIs don’t produce well organized code. They duplicate effort, which is tech debt. Maybe one day they will be able to clear their own tech debt. And who knows, maybe they’ll still be heavily subsidized by VC money then.

You can organise the code well once, template that and put guardrails in place for it to follow the structure you and the team have agreed is good. The engineering task becomes building the system that is capable of building the system to a high standard.

so if these "guardrails" really do work (which they don't), why wouldn't you just use them up front?

Re: The AI Great Leap Forward

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Post by JackSlateur »

At work, some team are going AI full speak ahead, for a year now

Their product still sucks, their roadmap is still a joke, their product is still buggy, they are more people than ever and their cost has increased

  what did any of this actually produce?

Re: The AI Great Leap Forward

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Post by sevenseacat »

busterarm wrote: post #41
e3df wrote: post #24

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Models get better with money (reinvestment). But if there aren't enough returns soon the money will eventually dry up for OAI and Anthropic and Google will not be trusted with their cash balance. Its amazing how people here think that money is a play-thing and this dance can go on forever. It cant and wont and the fear-induced marketing doesnt work forever either.

This is a false equivalence. Models get better with more & better data. Both more data and better data are very expensive. Procuring... Handling... All of the above... You can spend bottomless piles of cash and by not doing the right things not get there. I can count on one hand the number of times I've seen business/investor incentives line up with r&d incentives. There's no guarantee that there is enough or good-en…

They're not getting better data. They're now ingesting their own generated slop and bad habits are being reinforced.
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