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Re: A whole civilization might die tonight

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This is what happens when there's no effective opposition. Where are the dems? Where's the press?

The fatal flaw in our separation of powers is that even if congressional dems had a super majority, congress is powerless to enforce anything. And the press has been covering Trump's rhetoric and the war pretty heavily.

   > And the press has been covering Trump's rhetoric and the war pretty heavily.
 
The press is owned by the billionaires that paid Trump's campaign.

They literally bought the presidency for Trump.

Re: A whole civilization might die tonight

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Re: A whole civilization might die tonight

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If many people 'vouch' for it, it will get unflagged.

If you 'vouch' or 'flag' things the mods don't approve of, it gets disabled on your account.

Confirmed in private conversation with dang [1], he restored it after I promised to behave, and now it stopped working again as I didn't properly toe the line.

Quite hypocritical to give power to the user with the tacit expectation that you share the same opinions and political bent as the moderation team.

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Re: A whole civilization might die tonight

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post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is Israel's war and the American democrats have traditionally been very supportive. Last place to expect anything like what you are calling for.

No, this is now America's war. Israel has a part in it but the US is the main belligerent at this point and if Trump follows through on his threats he all but guarantees the downfall of the United States. This has gone way too far already and since the internal checks and balances of the United States appear not to be working it will be up to the rest of the world to draw a line. We can not afford to let this spiral…

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Re: A whole civilization might die tonight

#76
post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fatal flaw in our separation of powers is that even if congressional dems had a super majority, congress is powerless to enforce anything. And the press has been covering Trump's rhetoric and the war pretty heavily.

> And the press has been covering Trump's rhetoric and the war pretty heavily. The press is owned by the billionaires that paid Trump's campaign. They literally bought the presidency for Trump.

You're preaching to the choir. The oligarchy has indeed thoroughly captured the fourth estate

Re: A whole civilization might die tonight

#77
post #16

This is what happens when there's no effective opposition. Where are the dems? Where's the press?

Where are you ? What precisely are you doing other than posting stuff that pretends that a party in minority in both houses of Congress could actually stop a president, unless some politicians in the majority chose to join them. And, as underwhelming as the press are, the facts are that surveys show that American's broadly disapprove of the war. Presumably because of what they have learned about it from the press and…

Are you trying to say that the majority of dems don't support this war? Cause they do.

Also are you going to ignore the propaganda pushed by the press leading up to the initial attack? Or that they are still breathlessly parroting propaganda and self censoring right now?

The entire ruling class is responsible for this. The military carrying it out is responsible for it. Anyone in positions of power that have done nothing to stop this but post some strongly worded tweets is responsible.

Re: A whole civilization might die tonight

#78
How is Trump's threat the most extreme in this war? Hell, "a whole civilization might die tonight?". The islamic regime in Iran has explicitly set wiping out Persian civilization as it's goal, more than 50 years ago. And they've worked hard at it. Or how about:

Iran's regime threatens to make life in the middle east essentially impossible:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/23/iran-threat-to...

Iran's regime threatens to kill every Iranian they can "before giving Iran back to Iranians":

https://www.politico.com/news/2026/01/16/no-sign-of-new-prot...

Re: A whole civilization might die tonight

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If many people 'vouch' for it, it will get unflagged.

Unfortunately that's not the way it works. If it's [flagged] [dead] because of user flagging, some users can vouch for it to revive it. But if it's merely [flagged] (with associated penalties keeping it off the front pages) there is no option for vouching to remove the penalty. This one is currently [flagged] with no option for vouching.

You are right.

Re: A whole civilization might die tonight

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The markets dropped. He and his cronies are buying up stocks. Tomorrow he'll say Iran is negotiating and offering something amazing. The stocks will go up and they'll sell. Iran will say they have no idea what he's talking about. Wash and repeat.

As depressing as it sounds, this seems to pretty much sum up the objective of the 2nd Trump admin.
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