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AI singer now occupies eleven spots on iTunes singles chart

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Re: AI singer now occupies eleven spots on iTunes singles chart

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Post by djmips »

deathanatos wrote: post #70
notatoad wrote: post #30

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHQevuohJH8 my music tastes are pretty mainstream, and this just does absolutely nothing for me. it's exactly what i'd expect AI music to sound like - completely forgettable, with nothing interesting about it. i'd be willing to believe that this music was legitimately charting if it had at least some redeeming qualities, but i can't imagine how this could honestly get eleven spots on t…

Pre-video ad served by YT was quite literally a scam. Which says all you need to know about where all this is headed, I guess.

This channel is not even the official channel.

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Post by soundworlds »

afavour wrote: post #12
jmathai wrote: post #3

We've seen a steady shift in music over the past 2 decades from full length albums, to single hits, to artificially generated. Surely there's some gained and some lost. But coming from the era of buying an entire album, spending time reading the CD booklets and art, and listening to 10 songs which tell a larger story ---- what's being lost really hits home.

I really don't think we have. When I was growing up in the 90s it was the heyday of the pop single but there were still plenty of albums being produced and I think it's the same today.

I can tell you that myself (and many others) still create concept albums as our primary format. It's not that people aren't still creating it.

The choice is still there for any listener that cares about albums as a format. I don't mean that in a negative way. I suspect that many people listen to both playlists of singles, and albums of their favourite artists, depending on mood.

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Post by suzzer99 »

notatoad wrote: post #30

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHQevuohJH8 my music tastes are pretty mainstream, and this just does absolutely nothing for me. it's exactly what i'd expect AI music to sound like - completely forgettable, with nothing interesting about it. i'd be willing to believe that this music was legitimately charting if it had at least some redeeming qualities, but i can't imagine how this could honestly get eleven spots on t…

> completely forgettable, with nothing interesting about it

You just described 90% of young country for decades now. I keep waiting for its fans to get tired of being pandered to with formulaic lyrics, but they seem to be an endless well.

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Post by recursive »

daemonologist wrote: post #46

It's interesting to me that all AI music sounds slightly sibilant - like someone taped a sheet of paper to the speaker or covered my head in dry leaves. I know no model is perfect but I'd have thought they'd have ironed out this problem by now, given how pervasive it is and how significantly it degrades the end product.

I've noticed this too. I have a few theories about this. Disclosure: I know a little about audio, and very little about audio generative AI.

First, perhaps the models are trained on relatively low-bitrate encodings. Just like image generations sometimes generate JPG artifacts, we could be hearing the known high-frequency loss of low data rate encodings. Another idea is that 'S' and 'T' sounds and similar are relatively broad-spectrum sounds. Not unlike white noise. That kind of sound is known to be difficult to encode for lossy frequency-domain encoding schemes. Perhaps these models work in a similar domain and are subject to similar constraints. Perhaps there's a balance here of low-pass filter vs. "warbly" sounds, and we're hearing a middle ground compromise.

I don't know how it happens, but when I hear the "AI" sound in music, this is usually one of the first tells.

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Post by kbelder »

testycool wrote: post #23

I mostly listen to AI-generated music. 8 out of 10 of my top listens in the last 180 days are AI-generated. I gradually went from various genres -> mostly nerdcore -> mostly AI nerdcore. https://www.last.fm/user/testycool/library/tracks?from=2025-... EDIT: Updated link to the most listened songs in the past 180 days. The songs are not generated by me.

I don't like most AI music I've heard, but you shouldn't be voted down for expressing a preference.

I do sometimes turn on ambient noise, some of it is randomized and musical (like '88 keys' at mynoise.net). Not AI, just algorithmic, but just because there's no human composer doesn't mean it MUST be condemned.

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Post by bsder »

defrost wrote: post #69
notatoad wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>honestly I don't think anyone could peg this as AI just by listening to it. It's soulless and devoid of emotion i agree. as far as ai slop goes, it's pretty good. it could be made by a human who wasn't very artistic. i'm not saying it's obviously AI generated, just that it's not very good music. but that's not because i dislike popular music - i think most of the hot 100 is usually pretty good, and contains signific…

For a reasonable comparison to a minor hit of yore, where do people stand on the Flying Lizard's cover of Money (that's what I want) ? Soulless and devoid of emotion, or an inspired end run about the minor issue of a (self confessed) inability to conventionly sing.

> where do people stand on the Flying Lizard's cover of Money (that's what I want)?

It's fine precisely because it provokes emotion that AI stuff doesn't. You may love or hate what the Flying Lizards did, but it's very memorable and you will have an opinion about it (My wife loves it; I think it's stupid--C'est la vie.)

The AI generated music just sounds like every other average artist. I'm definitely not even convinced it's AI. It could very well be somebody claiming "AI" in order to game the system or get people talking about it.

As for occupying iTunes spots, why not? Is there much difference between Max Martin and his ilk shitting out yet more generic glop or AI doing it?

Re: AI singer now occupies eleven spots on iTunes singles chart

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Post by vectordust »

afavour wrote: post #12
jmathai wrote: post #3

We've seen a steady shift in music over the past 2 decades from full length albums, to single hits, to artificially generated. Surely there's some gained and some lost. But coming from the era of buying an entire album, spending time reading the CD booklets and art, and listening to 10 songs which tell a larger story ---- what's being lost really hits home.

I really don't think we have. When I was growing up in the 90s it was the heyday of the pop single but there were still plenty of albums being produced and I think it's the same today.

> there were still plenty of albums being produced and I think it's the same today.

agreed with this, I would almost go so far as to say there are more full length albums being created than ever before.

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