I had a professor in university that would do this pre-LLM.
He would take the first result on google and modify his problem to be slightly different.
Students that copied from google were easy to find and missed a key part of the problem.
Seems like a natural progression.
My university uses prompt injection to catch cheaters
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That's an answer I don't have, and am not qualified to make. I'd defer the decision to teachers and those who work well with children already, I just don't think this current iteration works. If I had to guess, it would look something like a software that confines the student to the software and provides interactive lessons and exams...but I'm a computer guy, my answer will always be "use a computer"
"confines the student to the software and provides interactive lessons and example" - this already exists. It is also useless without continuous supervision, as students will simply take a 2nd device (cell phone or tablet), start LLM app on it, then point to locked-down device's screen and ask to solve the problem. Yes, it slows down the process a bit since the students have to actually re-type the LLM answers instea…
1. Yes, and elsewhere in the thread I am suggesting proctored exams as well. Agreed.
2. I believe there is value in identifying issues with the current implementation, as it's required to fix them in the next implementation. This isn't a project I'm working on, related to my career path, or anything I'm passionate about. I am simply stating that I find the current implementation is flawed, and I believe it stems from the mindset of the original comment's "I wouldn't like cheaters to compete with honest students on the job market." I understand there is a difference between being resourceful and cheating, and using LLMs to write essays is clearly cheating, but, as someone who is not an educator and does not have children, I assume it is important to instill a sense of resourcefulness as well. If the entire purpose of education has become the job market, and the job market rewards resourceful people....
3.Seems to be replied to in 2.
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It really depends on the field you go into. If you're a writer and you want a job writing things, you go to college to become a better writer and prepare yourself for working in that industry. If the professors just let you turn in AI slop, how does that benefit anyone? You didn't write anything, why are you here paying tuition? And it demonstrates to the industry that if colleges are handing out degrees to writers f…
> You go to school to learn. This is not the mindset of very many people. They go to school because it's a requirement to get a job. Talk to someone in college, or especially a trade school, and you'll see that the overwhelming majority are cheating, especially those from lower trust cultures. I work at a FAANG and, in casual conversation, many of my colleagues admitted to cheating with a dismissive "everyone does it…
And colleges need to crack down on those students to kick them out of school. Other students should ask why their hard work is being degraded because others feel the need to cheat through school?
And if you're talking about schools in other countries, well, they get paid what they deserve.