Live data from Hacker News

US deploying nearly all stealthy long-range JASSM-ER cruise missiles to Iran war

msn.com

71–80 of 94 posts

Re: US deploying nearly all stealthy long-range JASSM-ER cruise missiles to Iran war

#71
post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm starting to believe that China isn't going to make the move. It's winning the hearts and minds of the rest of the world and will be able to leverage its growing soft power well beyond what Taiwan would provide. I just don't see them giving up the position the US has abandoned.

I suspect that they are willing to wait a few more years until they have built up their own chip making capacity so that disrupting Formosa won’t strongly affect their own economy, while it will hinder other developed countries.

I'm not so sure about that. Taiwan pro-reunification party still grows, and its economy is hyper-specialized (not surprising, neocolonialism etc). If china's chip production capacity reach acceptable level (which it will), enough to put downward pressure on lesser chip, Taiwan economy might suffer enough that they vote for a reunification, probably as an autonomous regions (like Guangxi or Ningxia). That would be China's ultimate win.

Re: US deploying nearly all stealthy long-range JASSM-ER cruise missiles to Iran war

#72
post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oil itself is becoming irrelevant quickly. It's a play for becoming king of the ashes.

Familiarize yourself with this: https://www.worldometers.info/oil/ Top reserves by country, historical data on consumption (including by country). These basic data points explain US foreign policy better than anything. There is no data or trends that supports the notion that oil is becoming irrelevant, much less quickly. US with it's current reserves and oil consumption rate would last roughly 12 years, btw.

That doesn't mean it won't happen.

Re: US deploying nearly all stealthy long-range JASSM-ER cruise missiles to Iran war

#73
post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Familiarize yourself with this: https://www.worldometers.info/oil/ Top reserves by country, historical data on consumption (including by country). These basic data points explain US foreign policy better than anything. There is no data or trends that supports the notion that oil is becoming irrelevant, much less quickly. US with it's current reserves and oil consumption rate would last roughly 12 years, btw.

That doesn't mean it won't happen.

I mean something undeniably WILL happen as the world has roughly 47 years left at current consumption rate of oil.

Whether what's going to happen will be whatever it is you're imagining is completely different story entirely.

Needless to say, If you have a largely deindustrialized country you can't really make any sort of transition happen yourself anyway, not at the grand scale and speed necessary for this endeavour.

Expect fireworks.

Re: US deploying nearly all stealthy long-range JASSM-ER cruise missiles to Iran war

#74
post #22

This whole war has already been a weird suicide ritual when it comes to American soft power. I guess hard power is next. The American Empire, burnt down by its own Nero/Caligula hybrid, while the population just watches it happen...

Genuine question for Americans: donyou not think that a Democrat today would be leading the same war? We're talking about a party that facilitated, and took part in, 1 year of genocide. In what world could you imagine Israel's planned war against Iran not being automatically supported by whatever US party was in power?

Yes, I think the Democrats would be fighting this war for Israel, just like they did in Gaza. If anything, it's almost good that Trump is leading this as it means the war does not have the support of the neoliberal citizens (politicians are another story). He's also even less competent, "saying the quiet parts out loud"... This is true accelerationism. Clearly it would be better to abandon Israel and not fight any of their wars for them, but flailing incompetently, sinking Israel and creating an Iranian super-power is the second best outcome.

Re: US deploying nearly all stealthy long-range JASSM-ER cruise missiles to Iran war

#75
post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oil itself is becoming irrelevant quickly. It's a play for becoming king of the ashes.

Familiarize yourself with this: https://www.worldometers.info/oil/ Top reserves by country, historical data on consumption (including by country). These basic data points explain US foreign policy better than anything. There is no data or trends that supports the notion that oil is becoming irrelevant, much less quickly. US with it's current reserves and oil consumption rate would last roughly 12 years, btw.

I always find this chart really insightful:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whale_oil#/media/File:US_Whale...

Re: US deploying nearly all stealthy long-range JASSM-ER cruise missiles to Iran war

#76
post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That doesn't mean it won't happen.

I mean something undeniably WILL happen as the world has roughly 47 years left at current consumption rate of oil. Whether what's going to happen will be whatever it is you're imagining is completely different story entirely. Needless to say, If you have a largely deindustrialized country you can't really make any sort of transition happen yourself anyway, not at the grand scale and speed necessary for this endeavour…

> There is no data or trends that supports the notion that oil is becoming irrelevant

> the world has roughly 47 years left at current consumption rate of oil.

This is contradictory?

Re: US deploying nearly all stealthy long-range JASSM-ER cruise missiles to Iran war

#77
post #54
post #22

This whole war has already been a weird suicide ritual when it comes to American soft power. I guess hard power is next. The American Empire, burnt down by its own Nero/Caligula hybrid, while the population just watches it happen...

I believe Trump when asked about climate change said something to the effect of "I'll be dead by then." I think that applies most everything he does in a way.

It's then-thirty and the bees are dying, let's get this show on the road

Re: US deploying nearly all stealthy long-range JASSM-ER cruise missiles to Iran war

#78
post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are being downvoted for stating the truth - you are absolutely right that the Democrats too would have fully supported Israel's attack on Iran. Let us not forget that Biden played a major role in Israel's ongoing genocide in Gaza (and now in West bank) by helping the IDF spread its propaganda hoax that "Hamas beheaded babies", in the western media (Biden lied that he had personally seen the "horrific pictures " -…

Doubtful.

Incorrect.

Is this how we debate now?

Re: US deploying nearly all stealthy long-range JASSM-ER cruise missiles to Iran war

#79
post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean something undeniably WILL happen as the world has roughly 47 years left at current consumption rate of oil. Whether what's going to happen will be whatever it is you're imagining is completely different story entirely. Needless to say, If you have a largely deindustrialized country you can't really make any sort of transition happen yourself anyway, not at the grand scale and speed necessary for this endeavour…

> There is no data or trends that supports the notion that oil is becoming irrelevant > the world has roughly 47 years left at current consumption rate of oil. This is contradictory?

Lets say, you have 47 years left to live.

Does that make those 47 years irrelevant - just because they will end?

There's no contradiction there. It just makes these last-remaining fossil fuels even more valuable.

Moreover oil use hasn't ramped down, nor is it getting replaced in any substantial way. I suspect people have no slightest clue just how reliant the modern world is on fossil fuels outside of it's use in cars.

Re: US deploying nearly all stealthy long-range JASSM-ER cruise missiles to Iran war

#80

Still, the war is very complete, pretty much, according to the most powerful man in charge of the most powerful military...practically every day since day 3. Was there ever a plan or even a goal? So now the US is spending more of its own vital weapons, which will leave Taiwan largely undefended on a war without goals and without end. China must be laughing about. Once all these US weapons have been squandered on an u…

I don't think they'll need to invade. A war would be costly and pointless. It is becoming clear that the US's protection is a lot like how the king protects his pawns.
Post reply on HN