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The CMS is dead, long live the CMS

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Re: The CMS is dead, long live the CMS

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Post by NetOpWibby »

reconnecting wrote: post #2

There is indeed not always a need for WordPress. I have been using ProcessWire (1) for over a decade. Open-source, zero dependencies, no-nonsense CMS — and when it comes time to build a new website, I go back to it even in 2026, because you make it once and it works for 10 years and counting. Cloudflare is just jealous that most of their customers are actually running WordPress, but this is not something they will be…

I assumed ProcessWire was some crusty olde CMS and am pleasantly surprised to see that it is NOT. It looks damn good and the sites created with it look great too. Adding this to my toolkit, thanks!

Re: The CMS is dead, long live the CMS

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Post by jasomill »

tappio wrote: post #20

I have built a product which uses AI to built Astro sites. LLM builds the sites in steps and make sure that they get 100/100 scores in pagespeed insights. These sites are served with a CDN. You can edit the sites with LLM interface, or use markdown editor to edit sites, or edit texts directly on a dashboard. These sites are static. There is no vendor lock in. If you want to migrate and manage yourself, just go to clo…

I’m confused. Static sites are the opposite of the target market for CMS. Even assuming consistent behavior from an LLM that never makes mistakes, how does your system handle access control, or multiple users submitting, reviewing, and publishing content to the site simultaneously?

Re: The CMS is dead, long live the CMS

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Post by jasomill »

ChicagoDave wrote: post #72

Code is ephemeral. Apps are going to be replaced instead of maintained. GenAI has changed every part of software engineering and enterprise application acquisition.

I don't understand. You're proposing a future where bugs are replaced with entirely new sets of bugs instead of fixed?

This sounds like one of the worst possible uses of generative AI that doesn't directly result in the loss of human life.

Re: The CMS is dead, long live the CMS

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Post by dedge »

simonw wrote: post #9

I expect the bigger risk to dynamic database-backed CMS platforms right now is that AI assistance makes static site generator tools run against a version controlled repository of content less intimidating for most users... and static sites are cheaper to run (especially in this era of badly coded scrapers flooding the internet) and much less likely to fall vulnerable to security problems. I expect we'll see a further…

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Re: The CMS is dead, long live the CMS

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Post by nothinkjustai »

_the_inflator wrote: post #32

What constitutes a Wordpress Site? The 3 page hobby site or the 100th of pages of a large company? There is a reason why Wordpress is (open source!) dominating the space ever since or more precisely, many niches. To be honest, I had my fair share of "You might not need Wordpress" but in the end, nothing beats its versatility, its rights management and options. There is always a plugin for that. I see no conntenter. A…

Wordpress gets you into trouble all the time imo. There are better solutions out there. Every headless cms I’ve used has been much less of a headache compared to Wordpress. I wish I could share your optimism on it, but man, it’s a real pain.

Perhaps what keeps it so dominate in the space is its plugin ecosystem. You can pretty much do anything with it with off the shelf plugins, and a metric fuckton of duct tape. Headless options are way better, but you need to implement stuff yourself. Which of course is a massive barrier in many cases, but when you have the ability to do so, it’s almost always better to do so.

Re: The CMS is dead, long live the CMS

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Post by ChicagoDave »

jasomill wrote: post #74
ChicagoDave wrote: post #72

Code is ephemeral. Apps are going to be replaced instead of maintained. GenAI has changed every part of software engineering and enterprise application acquisition.

I don't understand. You're proposing a future where bugs are replaced with entirely new sets of bugs instead of fixed? This sounds like one of the worst possible uses of generative AI that doesn't directly result in the loss of human life.

Well you make the assumption the new code will be worse.

I don’t think that will be true.

Note: if you haven’t used Claude since December then you’ve not seen the massive difference in quality code generation. All the studies prior to December are irrelevant.

Re: The CMS is dead, long live the CMS

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Post by Gagarin1917 »

gman83 wrote: post #5

I never really understood the argument, you can design the frontend with AI anyway and then use WordPress as the CMS for clients. Clients want to be able to log in, update CPTs, edit a calendar, post pictures, things like that. Surely the idea isn't to vibe-code an admin panel/cms from scratch for every project?

Not to mention the amount of online stores that Wordpress and its plugins power. Vibe coding that would be insanity when solutions already exist.
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