Embarrassingly simple self-distillation improves code generation
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Re: Embarrassingly simple self-distillation improves code generation
#72After TurboQuant and Gemma 4, came across the following video[0] running Gemma on local machine at 50 token/second. That already looks like Sonnet 3x and 4 level capabilities to me where the model in question (Gemma 4) set ups whole python project with a UI and installs python libraries using uv etc. Add this Simple Self Distillation to the picture and by 2028 I see cheaper coding model providers with much more gener…
> power users would be mostly running their own models ...with a fair amount of supervision, while frontier models would be running circles around them using project-specific memory and on-demand training (or whatever we would have by then).
Re: Embarrassingly simple self-distillation improves code generation
#73Really fascinating how this works; it's basically context-aware decoding. From the paper: > Code interleaves fork positions, where several continuations are genuinely plausible and may correspond to different solution approaches, with lock positions, where syntax and semantics leave little ambiguity but a low-probability distractor tail still remains… The best global decoding setting is therefore necessarily a compro…
Another example of the mindf@#$ these systems are: I was doing some fine tuning to a small model, take data fields and make a sentence out of it. I was running into mode collapse (basically when the AI simplifies too much and always output the same thing). I got unstuck by randomizing the field order for each row?!? At training, and now I'm thinking I should do the same at inference time...
Re: Embarrassingly simple self-distillation improves code generation
#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I love that we're still learning the emergent properties of LLMs! TBH, this is (very much my opinion btw) the least surprising thing. LLMs (and especially their emergent properties) are still black boxes. Humans have been studying the human brain for millenia, and we are barely better at predicting how humans work (or for eg to what extent free will is a thing). Hell, emergent properties of traffic was not understo…
To say we've been studying the brain for millennia is an extreme exaggeration. Modern neuroscience is only about 50 years old.
Re: Embarrassingly simple self-distillation improves code generation
#75After TurboQuant and Gemma 4, came across the following video[0] running Gemma on local machine at 50 token/second. That already looks like Sonnet 3x and 4 level capabilities to me where the model in question (Gemma 4) set ups whole python project with a UI and installs python libraries using uv etc. Add this Simple Self Distillation to the picture and by 2028 I see cheaper coding model providers with much more gener…
> power users would be mostly running their own models ...with a fair amount of supervision, while frontier models would be running circles around them using project-specific memory and on-demand training (or whatever we would have by then).
If you're building something groundbreaking and new, the advantage will be slim to none.
Re: Embarrassingly simple self-distillation improves code generation
#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I love that we're still learning the emergent properties of LLMs! TBH, this is (very much my opinion btw) the least surprising thing. LLMs (and especially their emergent properties) are still black boxes. Humans have been studying the human brain for millenia, and we are barely better at predicting how humans work (or for eg to what extent free will is a thing). Hell, emergent properties of traffic was not understo…
Studies of LLMs belong in their own field of science, just like psychology is not being studied in the physics department.
Much as Diogenes mocked Platos definition of a man with a plucked chicken, LLM's revealed what "real" ai would require: contigous learning. That isnt to diminish the power of LLM's (the are useful) but that limitation is a fairly hard one to over come if true AGI is your goal.
Re: Embarrassingly simple self-distillation improves code generation
#77Really fascinating how this works; it's basically context-aware decoding. From the paper: > Code interleaves fork positions, where several continuations are genuinely plausible and may correspond to different solution approaches, with lock positions, where syntax and semantics leave little ambiguity but a low-probability distractor tail still remains… The best global decoding setting is therefore necessarily a compro…
> I love that we're still learning the emergent properties of LLMs! TBH, this is (very much my opinion btw) the least surprising thing. LLMs (and especially their emergent properties) are still black boxes. Humans have been studying the human brain for millenia, and we are barely better at predicting how humans work (or for eg to what extent free will is a thing). Hell, emergent properties of traffic was not understo…
I dare say that in some ways, we understand LLMs better than humans, or at least the interpretability tools are now superior. Awkward place to be, but an interesting one.
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#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
Studies of LLMs belong in their own field of science, just like psychology is not being studied in the physics department.
The intersection of physics isnt psychology it is philosophy, and the same is true (at present) with LLM's Much as Diogenes mocked Platos definition of a man with a plucked chicken, LLM's revealed what "real" ai would require: contigous learning. That isnt to diminish the power of LLM's (the are useful) but that limitation is a fairly hard one to over come if true AGI is your goal.
The intersection of what with physics?