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Swappa.com for GrapheneOS compatible devices – Stay Away

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Post by kube-system »

tomcatfish wrote: post #55
kube-system wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That essentially is the case. Grocery stores make a best effort to remove expired foods but you can often find expired food on the shelf in the US. Go make a stink about it at the customer service desk and they will probably say exactly that.

They… will not say that, because they get a large fine if you report them. Every store I've been too has been deeply apologetic when this has happened (a small handful of times in my entire life).

In a lot of the US it is entirely legal to sell expired food. Near me there are grocery stores that specialize in “close to expiration” food, for a discount.

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Post by mindslight »

lnx01 wrote: post #36

In the context of an online marketplace "Unlocked" means "Not carrier locked". This has _nothing_ to do with the bootloader.

Someone can be forgiven for thinking that "unlocked" means "not locked" rather than "locked but with only one lock".

I only buy used devices from online marketplaces/vendors with free returns, as it keeps the incentives aligned such that sellers don't want to hide defects (as it just increases their return rate).

Re: Swappa.com for GrapheneOS compatible devices – Stay Away

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Post by mindslight »

deeplowdock wrote: post #6

I wonder why almost no one in these GrapheneOS praise topic mentions that you won't be able to pay with your phone, and often even bank apps refuse to install on it - it was a deal breaker for me personally, and now I'm back under Google umbrella :<

Banks will readily send you a completely separate computer just to perform payment transactions with. It's very thin, and you can even get a phone case that holds it as well. There's really little reason to bundle all that functionality up into one device, especially if a consequence is that doing so requires you to run surveillance industry malware.

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Post by kay_o »

NewJazz wrote: post #63
laweijfmvo wrote: post #3

Swappa became a no-go for me when they started making exceptions to their rules for commercial sellers, justifying it by saying they were inherently more reliable. For example, using stock photos for multiple devices instead of the device you actually receive. All of three of these phones, based on the seller names, were those reliable sellers.

Do you any alternative marketplace? My last few ohones were from swappa, only good experiences so far.

I have had good experience with Craig list seller in highly technical city, such as San Mateo, San Jose etc.

Facebook Marketplace almost all of phone for sale is locked/stolen or the person selling does not know originator (f.e. Verizon phone never unlockable, includes all reseller) and often they are too non technical to know if it was bought from google play store ("factory unlocked") Often it will not even be paid off or intentional to scam you with a phone that will work for a month until it is reported stolen and unpaid loan

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Post by tamimio »

Unlocked bootloader, grapheneOS, etc etc are all technical terms and nerd culture no one knows outside of technical world, most of these sellers are not technical people, nor they have the time to check it, and unless the seller is technical dude himself, highly unlikely you will get a definitive answer.

This has a downside like your scenario, but also a positive side when you find gems in used markets but the owner doesn’t know its potentials.

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Post by NekkoDroid »

kube-system wrote: post #71
tomcatfish wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They… will not say that, because they get a large fine if you report them. Every store I've been too has been deeply apologetic when this has happened (a small handful of times in my entire life).

In a lot of the US it is entirely legal to sell expired food. Near me there are grocery stores that specialize in “close to expiration” food, for a discount.

Rewe in germany also has some things discounted when close to expiration as well, but it has a fat red/white label on it indicating it (usually meat products)

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Post by g947o »

prg318 wrote: post #47
McDev wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FWIW I've tested Android Auto before with sandboxed Google Play, works fine.

Yup! You can even get Android Auto to work without Google Play: - https://github.com/sn-00-x/aa4mg

Once upon a time I would be happy to put custom ROMs on my phone and do all these patches.

These days I just care so much about "things should just work" that I cannot justify doing this. I cannot think about how I could spend time figuring out what to do when the repo is no longer maintained or something breaks for random reasons.

Re: Swappa.com for GrapheneOS compatible devices – Stay Away

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Post by Itoldmyselfso »

g947o wrote: post #77
prg318 wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yup! You can even get Android Auto to work without Google Play: - https://github.com/sn-00-x/aa4mg

Once upon a time I would be happy to put custom ROMs on my phone and do all these patches. These days I just care so much about "things should just work" that I cannot justify doing this. I cannot think about how I could spend time figuring out what to do when the repo is no longer maintained or something breaks for random reasons.

Agreed. Sandboxed Google play really is the non-tinkerer's approach on GOS, including for Android Auto.

Re: Swappa.com for GrapheneOS compatible devices – Stay Away

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Post by hnuser435 »

McDev wrote: post #25
hnuser435 wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Limitations are on the website - https://grapheneos.org/articles/ I don't care about google pay/wallet or android auto. My credit union's app does work fine, but even if it didn't, I'd still use GOS. It's great.

FWIW I've tested Android Auto before with sandboxed Google Play, works fine.

Must be a recent development. Kudos to the GOS team for improving compatibility!
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