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StepFun 3.5 Flash is #1 cost-effective model for OpenClaw tasks (300 battles)

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Re: StepFun 3.5 Flash is #1 cost-effective model for OpenClaw tasks (300 battles)

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post #36

Missing from the comparison is MiMo V2 Flash (not Pro), which I think could put up a good fight against Step 3.5 Flash. Pricing is essentially the same: MiMo V2 Flash: $0.09/M input, $0.29/M output Step 3.5 Flash: $0.10/M input, $0.30/M output MiMo has 41 vs 38 for Step on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index, but it's 49 vs 52 for Step on their Agentic Index.

I will try and add it. But I doubt it works well because Mimo V2 Pro is beaten by stepfun even at performance leaderboard (price is not a factor in this leaderboard), so I expect MiMo V2 Flash to perform even worse.

Mimo V2 Pro seems quite used by people as per OpenRouter's stats (second after Stepfun), it could be interesting to see indeed the difference!

https://openrouter.ai/apps?url=https%3A%2F%2Fopenclaw.ai%2F

Re: StepFun 3.5 Flash is #1 cost-effective model for OpenClaw tasks (300 battles)

#72
post #36

Missing from the comparison is MiMo V2 Flash (not Pro), which I think could put up a good fight against Step 3.5 Flash. Pricing is essentially the same: MiMo V2 Flash: $0.09/M input, $0.29/M output Step 3.5 Flash: $0.10/M input, $0.30/M output MiMo has 41 vs 38 for Step on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index, but it's 49 vs 52 for Step on their Agentic Index.

I will try and add it. But I doubt it works well because Mimo V2 Pro is beaten by stepfun even at performance leaderboard (price is not a factor in this leaderboard), so I expect MiMo V2 Flash to perform even worse.

Mimi Flash matched Mimo Pro on https://sql-benchmark.nicklothian.com/?#all-data at double the speed and for $0.003 instead of $0.07

Re: StepFun 3.5 Flash is #1 cost-effective model for OpenClaw tasks (300 battles)

#73
post #5

According to openrouter.ai it looks like StepFun 3.5 Flash is the most popular model at 3.5T tokens, vs GLM 5 Turbo at 2.5T tokens. Claude Sonnet is in 5th place with 1.05T tokens. Which isn't super suprising as StepFun is ~about 5% the price of Sonnet. https://openrouter.ai/apps?url=https%3A%2F%2Fopenclaw.ai%2F

I used to use these various models for my claw-like and what they had a habit of doing is taking way more agent rounds and way more tokens to produce something that Sonnet would produce from far less. My total cost ended up being the same to do useful things.

Re: StepFun 3.5 Flash is #1 cost-effective model for OpenClaw tasks (300 battles)

#75
post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If they use OpenRouter pricing then the Qwen3.5 models are going to be poor value. The Qwen3.5 27B model on OR is $1.56/million tokens out (it used to be $2.4/mil). Meanwhile Minimax M2.7 (a much larger model) is $1.2/mil out. The smaller and medium tier Qwen3.5 models are only really cost effective if you run them yourself.

Is Minimax M2.7 better than Qwen3.5 27B, or is it just bigger?

Minimax M2.7 is similar to sonnet in my tests. This is the first non OAI/Anthropic model I use for coding. It does require more steering, though.

Re: StepFun 3.5 Flash is #1 cost-effective model for OpenClaw tasks (300 battles)

#77
post #50

I was excited to read through this to find out how these tasks are evaluated at scale. Lots of scary looking formulas with sigmas and other Greek letters. Then I clicked on one task to see what it looks like “on the ground”: https://app.uniclaw.ai/arena/DDquysCGBsHa (not cherry picked- literally the first one I clicked on) The task was: > Find rental properties with 10 bedrooms and 8 or more bathrooms within a 1 hour…

Reminded me of the XKCD [1] that points out the problem with average scores.

[1] https://xkcd.com/937/

Re: StepFun 3.5 Flash is #1 cost-effective model for OpenClaw tasks (300 battles)

#78
post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is Minimax M2.7 better than Qwen3.5 27B, or is it just bigger?

Minimax M2.7 is similar to sonnet in my tests. This is the first non OAI/Anthropic model I use for coding. It does require more steering, though.

More steering than Sonnet? What is your experience?

Re: StepFun 3.5 Flash is #1 cost-effective model for OpenClaw tasks (300 battles)

#79

I'm not seeing Deepseek mentioned very often, which I've been using for Openclaw, very cheaply I might add, with great success. I think I loaded $10 to my account 2 months ago and I still havent needed to top up.

Which deepseek exactly and what do you use it for? Just curious.

Re: StepFun 3.5 Flash is #1 cost-effective model for OpenClaw tasks (300 battles)

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post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is Minimax M2.7 better than Qwen3.5 27B, or is it just bigger?

Minimax M2.7 is similar to sonnet in my tests. This is the first non OAI/Anthropic model I use for coding. It does require more steering, though.

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