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My son pleasured himself on Gemini Live. Entire family's Google accounts banned

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Re: My son pleasured himself on Gemini Live. Entire family's Google accounts banned

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post #34

This is the exact scenario I described one month ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47195943

>Way too risky to use Google services like this tied to your primary account. Google has no problem correlating your accounts unless you know what you're doing and are ready to switch to the cypherpunk mode.

There is realistically no way to evade the account correlation systems that Google (likely) has.

Re: My son pleasured himself on Gemini Live. Entire family's Google accounts banned

#72

Is this an AI post? The last few times something mind-blowing was shared from Reddit, it was later found to be fake.

I think it’s human written but there are details of the story that are self-contradicting, like receiving an email explaining why all of the accounts have been banned after all of their email accounts were banned. Including recovery accounts.

Re: My son pleasured himself on Gemini Live. Entire family's Google accounts banned

#73
post #40

God, this is a real nightmare. I'm pretty reticent to rush to regulation, but I really don't know what other solution is even possible here. The average person cannot realistically exist in a digital vacuum, self-hosting their entire online world. Google should not be able to do this to them. No one should have to rely on trying to whip up public mobs on Reddit or HN to get Google to give them access to their own fre…

> The average person cannot realistically exist in a digital vacuum

This alone is enough to see that regulation is what is needed. It's completely crooked that the average person is forced to maintain good standing with a single particular NASDAQ corporation to participate in society. Those here who might think "it's very possible to do so without Google" are not the average person, living in an average place in an average bubble.

The solution is breaking up Google.

This remains the case even if this particular story is exaggerated.

Re: My son pleasured himself on Gemini Live. Entire family's Google accounts banned

#74

> All my emails, all my documents saved in Google Drive. I would think someone whose business depends on gmail would use an email client, at least periodically, to download their emails.

What an arrogant response. Do you think the average user understands where emails are stored or that google could rugpull at any moment?

Re: My son pleasured himself on Gemini Live. Entire family's Google accounts banned

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post #40

God, this is a real nightmare. I'm pretty reticent to rush to regulation, but I really don't know what other solution is even possible here. The average person cannot realistically exist in a digital vacuum, self-hosting their entire online world. Google should not be able to do this to them. No one should have to rely on trying to whip up public mobs on Reddit or HN to get Google to give them access to their own fre…

> I'm pretty reticent to rush to regulation, but I really don't know what other solution is even possible here.

Before rushing to assume regulation is necessary, we should question if this story is real at all. It has a lot of signs of being a creative writing exercise like the conflicting details about all of their accounts being banned, including recovery emails, but then later they received an email explaining the reason for the ban. How did they receive that email?

Re: My son pleasured himself on Gemini Live. Entire family's Google accounts banned

#77
post #34

This is the exact scenario I described one month ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47195943

Makes you wonder if Google models how much revenue they lose specifically to this fear, because it's very real. I would simply never use GCP or Gemini because the idea of being banned from Google for absolutely any long-tail reason is a far greater cost than any benefit I could derive from those services.

Re: My son pleasured himself on Gemini Live. Entire family's Google accounts banned

#78
post #12

Where the hell is the open source app that downloads all your google stuff? There is a huge opportunity to be a hero.

Why do you need an app? https://takeout.google.com/

I have been trying to do takeout periodically for 6 months. All manner of combinations and different sets of data.

I'm probably at 20 attempts and everyone single one has failed...

Re: My son pleasured himself on Gemini Live. Entire family's Google accounts banned

#79
Google some time ago deleted all my 13 years of location history while attempting to migrate it to local storage on users phones. I used it to keep track of business expenses for tax and had to collect the data someway else. Plus lost a lot of places i had kept track of in foreign countries visited. Desaster that showed I should not rely on them. Made that mistake there while self hosting and self backuping the whole other stuff. Oh well.

Re: My son pleasured himself on Gemini Live. Entire family's Google accounts banned

#80

If I ever become a life coach for small business owners, I don't know how I can recommend GSuite. Horror stories of "I've lost everything I had with them" are so plentiful I've stopped saving them. Seems like even Microsoft is not as bad.

What would Microsoft do in such a case? Unlikely to be any different.

I have no context since the original post is deleted, but in general, it seems the supposed account of the son was not tied in any direct way to the other accounts...

The solution is to use a true business-oriented provider and not an ad agency for one's file and email hosting.

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