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Philly courts will ban all smart eyeglasses starting next week

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Re: Philly courts will ban all smart eyeglasses starting next week

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Post by theshrike79 »

root_axis wrote: post #18
bryan0 wrote: post #6

Serious question: what will happen when people start getting implants? They’ll probably require some sort of off mode, but not sure how that would be enforced.

That's so far into the future that we can cross that bridge when we come to it.

You really need to look into what people are doing with prosthetic eyes.

Here's a dude from 3 years ago adding a flashlight: https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/yblzi4/g...

And I'm pretty sure I saw one who added a laser to theirs for raves, but can't find the link :)

You can buy very very tiny cameras today off the shelf, the main problem would be just packaging either a storage medium or wireless transfer capability + power inside the eye. With government-level budgets it's doable, possibly even by a skilled maker with resources.

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Post by KennyBlanken »

Smart eyeglasses are illegal in my state, unquestionably.

The law mandates that any "secret" recording is illegal. This is different from the usual standard, which is whether someone is recording people who are in a place where they have an expectation of privacy or not.

It doesn't matter if you're on the street, in someone's home, a courtroom. A tiny little LED doesn't rectify that. Nobody expects someone's eyeglasses to be recording them.

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Post by whiplash451 »

theshrike79 wrote: post #70
verandaguy wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It can be simultaneously true that smart glasses are a technological marvel and a privacy nightmare. It's also important to consider that while many places have some legal framework along the lines of "no reasonable expectation of privacy in public spaces," there's a social-psychological gap between that and the presumption of being constantly recorded, be it by other private individuals or governments. Because of th…

As a full-time glasses-wearer and sci-fi nerd, I want smart glasses SO BAD. Just running the equivalent of YOLOv8 on your glasses identifying objects in your view real time would be very very cool. But as a privacy-conscious developer, I want exactly zero connection to any FAANG cloud service in my smart classes. So until someone releases a pair of smart glasses I can get with my prescription and, for example, use my…

It’s worse than this. A company offering “private” smart glasses could slip into FB mode on its own or get acquired. So it’s a hard no from any company really.

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Post by simonbarker87 »

I had my first interaction with someone wearing Meta(I assume) glasses and it was very disconcerting. Ironically I was collecting my new (non-smart) glasses and it was the employee I was interacting with. I really wanted to ask for someone else to deal with me but since there has been no furore this time around (my how times have changed since Goggle Glass) I decided not to risk a scene

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Post by sheiyei »

simonbarker87 wrote: post #76

I had my first interaction with someone wearing Meta(I assume) glasses and it was very disconcerting. Ironically I was collecting my new (non-smart) glasses and it was the employee I was interacting with. I really wanted to ask for someone else to deal with me but since there has been no furore this time around (my how times have changed since Goggle Glass) I decided not to risk a scene

When I need to get new glasses my first requirement is that the store doesn't sell Meta Creep Glasses

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Post by qmr »

zmmmmm wrote: post #20

I couldn't read the article but am curious what the definition of "smart" is. Because if that is the exact wording then it seems to be extremely broad and probably capture some unintended cases. These kind of blanket bans are going to pose some real problems for the tech because people who wear prescription glasses will often get their prescription built in. So you can't take them off - you need them to see. And then…

If they can afford stupid "smart" glasses they can afford dumb glasses.

> There needs to be an industry wide agreement on a standard where something like a bluetooth beacon can shut off recording.

Yes, this is a great idea. Hardware hackers can then quickly clone these beacons and spam $5 glass hole blockers everywhere.

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Post by b112 »

autoexec wrote: post #56
plorg wrote: post #16

My local county is currently in a dispute with the local bar association because they want to upgrade the courthouse security cameras and the sheriff wants to add audio capabilities. This includes to parts of the building just outside the courtroom that counsel will frequently use for brief asides with their clients (due to lack of other private rooms). The county seems to favor adding the microphones and pinky swear…

What's the security reason they need this? How many times has a security camera failed to do its job because it didn't have audio? What crimes do they thing they are going to solve? Are people breaking into the courthouse wearing masks but screaming their own names?

I think one problem is, almost all security cameras are sold with audio these days. If the cameras have a mic, telling people "Oh, we turned the mic off in each camera" or "We don't record the audio" isn't very helpful.

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Post by expedition32 »

wpm wrote: post #50
serious_angel wrote: post #5

I am not into Facebook/Meta nowadays, bet the technology is so lovely freaking magnificent... Back in the days, these were in Sci-Fi and dreams only... // https://www.ifixit.com/News/113543/theres-groundbreaking-wav...

They were better off being left in dreams, because there you never have to actually think of the consequences. Like Star Trek holodecks. They seem amazing at first, but only because the weirdest it ever got was a sweaty Lt. Barclay, a creepy Cmdr. LaForge, and a safe-for-TV sleazeball named Quark. In reality, if you could "jack in" to a self-controlled Matrix, or walk onto a holodeck and make anything you wanted feel…

One thing people don't get right about Star Trek is that the Federation is not supposed to be "us but with a post scarcity economy".

The entire society in Star Trek has moved beyond greed and sadism.

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