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Samsung Magician disk utility takes 18 steps and two reboots to uninstall

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Re: Samsung Magician disk utility takes 18 steps and two reboots to uninstall

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Post by klez »

dylan604 wrote: post #56
rvba wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Windows is the same now. Due to "new and better" approach, each program puts its data in 5 different folders for "multi user" reasons. What is infuriating that all those folders are hidden and all of them are on C: drive. So your C: drive gets clogged. This makes it impossible to track how much space each program uses. (On a side note its been years since floppy drives were the A: drive... and yet we are still stuck…

> (On a side note its been yeara since floppy drives were the A: drive... and yet we are still stuck with the primary disc being called C:) The logic behind that is pretty obvious isn't it?

Unless you mean retrocompatibility, no it's not that obvious to me.

Re: Samsung Magician disk utility takes 18 steps and two reboots to uninstall

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Post by shantara »

didgetmaster wrote: post #33

I worked on a disk utility in the 90s called PartitionMagic that was one of the first ones to let you dynamically resize disk partitions. Maybe Samsung used that when naming their product. I am old, but I miss the days when the install process was copy . to / and the uninstall process was delete /

Partition Magic was among the first utilities recommended to me by my more experienced water I got my first PC. It served me well for many years since!

Re: Samsung Magician disk utility takes 18 steps and two reboots to uninstall

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Post by malfist »

josephcsible wrote: post #55
raincole wrote: post #16

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The writing style has a name called ragebaiting. The gold: > Localization files for every language on Earth Yeah because English is the only one language that matters. Let's fuck up all the non-native speakers to save, I don't know, 50kb of text files? How could one frame this as a bad thing? > Help documentation with 40+ screenshots in 10 languages Seriously how Anglocentric could this author be? Even physical produ…

Isn't the normal convention to ship all the language files in the installer, but for it to only install the ones that are actually used on the system?

In the past I've certainly seen that, but more and more I see all the language files being installed. You never know when someone is going to change their language, add another one, or add a new user.

Re: Samsung Magician disk utility takes 18 steps and two reboots to uninstall

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Post by Someone »

gwbas1c wrote: post #54

Years ago I shipped a MacOS product. If you deleted it, you would get an error emptying the recycle bin (or force-deleting the application bundle if you did an rm -R to it.) Why? Well, at the time Windows Explorer had an API for extensions, but MacOS didn't for Finder. We needed to add some menu items to the context menu, which on MacOS required reverse engineering Finder and injecting code into it. This then meant t…

I don’t understand. Any MacOS Finder that had an open file handle into an application bundle runs on the Unix version of MacOS, and that allows deletion of open files (the inode stays around until the process exits), doesn’t it?

Or did/does the Finder check whether to-be-deleted files are open? Or did I forget how older Mac file systems behaved?

Re: Samsung Magician disk utility takes 18 steps and two reboots to uninstall

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Post by malfist »

ryandrake wrote: post #69
rmunn wrote: post #44

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> But I know people who are snuggly proud about not reading the manual and I really don't get it. Agreed... but there seem to be more and more products that either don't have manuals, or whose manuals are so badly written that reading them turns out to be a waste of time. I feel like people are being trained not to read manuals anymore, so I understand the people whose first instinct is "that thing is going to be use…

Installing software should not require a manual. It should require one button click, or one drag action.

> It should require one button click, or one drag action.

That is way to simplistic to be one size fits all.

Re: Samsung Magician disk utility takes 18 steps and two reboots to uninstall

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Post by anthk »

ryandrake wrote: post #60
functionmouse wrote: post #32

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That's because this particular sort of cyber security is merely theatrics with the goal of reducing user agency and increasing paranoia and vendor lock-in. The user facing friction is the goal. There will always be scams and viruses; the only practical outcome will be that you have less control over your computer, and Apple/MS/Google have more. See: Sideloading, Wayland, UWPs, iOS JIT, Windows XP and 7 still being us…

We are moving away from the old world where you can trust the applications you are running on your computer, to today's world where you can't. The unix permission model is based on apps running as your user having access to every device and file you, the user, have access to. The threat was "other system users trying to access your files and devices" but now the threat is "applications you run trying to access your f…

Namespaces in 9front (actual ones, not second hand ones like under Linux) makes isolating software trivial.

Re: Samsung Magician disk utility takes 18 steps and two reboots to uninstall

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Post by dawnerd »

kvuj wrote: post #23
saagarjha wrote: post #6

I feel like the complaints here are…not really Samsung's fault? > So I’ve dug around and found a cleanup script buried six folders deep inside the app bundle. Let’s try to run it: > sh ~/Library/'Application Support'/Samsung/'Samsung Magician'/SamsungMagician.app/Contents/Resources/CleanupMagician_Admin_Mac.sh > It ran. And my kitty exploded. Sweet kitty overflowed. Hundreds - literally hundreds - of lines of chown:…

> I feel like the complaints here are…not really Samsung's fault? I don't know man, the last time I uninstalled an app on macOS, all I had to do was drag it to the trash. If you find this procedure sane, then I don't know what to tell you. Samsung is responsible of how users interact with their app, including its install and removal.

And you probably have a lot of files still from removed apps. There’s a reason there’s a few app uninstaller / cleaner utils

Re: Samsung Magician disk utility takes 18 steps and two reboots to uninstall

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Post by vbezhenar »

GeekyBear wrote: post #46
didgetmaster wrote: post #33

I worked on a disk utility in the 90s called PartitionMagic that was one of the first ones to let you dynamically resize disk partitions. Maybe Samsung used that when naming their product. I am old, but I miss the days when the install process was copy . to / and the uninstall process was delete /

When a user mode application on the Mac doesn't just allow you to drag the app into the applications folder to install, it's a red huge red flag. Personally, I'd look for another alternative from a company that better understands the Mac. Chrome, for instance, previously used an installer that had to run with administrative permissions and famously ended up rendering systems unbootable. System utilities and drivers a…

Mac apps often do various things on your computer. Just because you dragged it to Bin, doesn't mean there are no leftovers on your computer. I'd prefer proper uninstaller any day.

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Post by izacus »

didgetmaster wrote: post #33

I worked on a disk utility in the 90s called PartitionMagic that was one of the first ones to let you dynamically resize disk partitions. Maybe Samsung used that when naming their product. I am old, but I miss the days when the install process was copy . to / and the uninstall process was delete /

> I am old, but I miss the days when the install process was copy . to / and the uninstall process was delete /

I don't remember this ever being the case, even in times of DOS.

Re: Samsung Magician disk utility takes 18 steps and two reboots to uninstall

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Post by post-it »

GeekyBear wrote: post #46
didgetmaster wrote: post #33

I worked on a disk utility in the 90s called PartitionMagic that was one of the first ones to let you dynamically resize disk partitions. Maybe Samsung used that when naming their product. I am old, but I miss the days when the install process was copy . to / and the uninstall process was delete /

When a user mode application on the Mac doesn't just allow you to drag the app into the applications folder to install, it's a red huge red flag. Personally, I'd look for another alternative from a company that better understands the Mac. Chrome, for instance, previously used an installer that had to run with administrative permissions and famously ended up rendering systems unbootable. System utilities and drivers a…

I started developing for my Mac a few weeks ago and I'm blown away by how easy it is to make an app that feels Mac native and includes quality of life features like CloudKit sync across all your devices. It's become clear that most companies don't give the tiniest shit about any of that.
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