Wow, what a free society! In the UK if you refuse to unlock your device you can be imprisoned indefinitely! In HK it's just one year!
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Hong Kong police can now demand phone passwords under new security rules
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Re: Hong Kong police can now demand phone passwords under new security rules
#72Feature request: Make it default behavior on phones that you can have multiple passwords, connected to different profiles. With no way to determine how many profiles a phone have. I'm sure there's some people here working on mobile operating systems, might be worth considering?
"This profile doesn't have anything on it. Give us the password for the real profile." Or even worse, you did give them the real password, but because your phone supports the feature and your profile is kind of barren, they don't believe you. Now you are in a very bad lose-lose situation.
You do use your "fake" profile regularly, just for "sanitized" activities. Check in on official sanctioned news sources, do your "legit" banking and financial stuff, etc.
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#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Roleplaying a parallel reallity where "Europe" is an oppressive totalitarian regime will never not be funny. Roleplaying inability to read will never not be funny UK: https://www.pinsentmasons.com/out-law/news/law-requiring-dis... France: https://www.fairtrials.org/articles/news/french-court-rules-... Ireland: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-57468750
UK: Police can search phones to counteract human traffickers. China: Police can search phones of dissidents, and jail them for life for criticising the Party. You: Europe is worse than China (or will be really soon I promise). Disingenuous.
Nobody claimed Europe was worse than China, only that if you wouldn't visit China for this reason then you shouldn't visit Europe (or the US) for the same reason.
Speaking of being disingenuous, when you say "Police can search phones to counteract human traffickers", did you think critically about that at all before writing it? Given one of the stated justifications is "preventing terrorism", and the UK has been illegally arresting Palestine Action supporters as terrorists for over a year, this seems a little naive at least.
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#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
How about the US? What I'm going to write smells of "whataboutism", but it's tragic how more and more of the world is becoming police states. Going to the USA, they want your social media accounts. Regardless of that, the border thugs can probably demand you unlock your devices or they'll detain you for weeks on end, without any repercussions, because that sort of lawlessness is government policy now.
In the US, not disclosing a password is explicitly protected (5th amndmnt), SCOTUS has been clear. not so for biometrics, but so for PIN/passwd
The 5th amendment only protects citizens, and we are only talking about visiting (as far as I can tell).
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Re: Hong Kong police can now demand phone passwords under new security rules
#76>The US is evil
>China makes you give phone passwords, China makes Apple give user data
>The US wiretaps 1 person
"OMG THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!"
We forget because a Republikan is in charge how good we have it in the west. We forget how bad it is elsewhere.
Re: Hong Kong police can now demand phone passwords under new security rules
#77The cops from the John Woo HK action flicks I've seen would love this
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#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
For many people, their phone is their primary, if not only, computing and communications device.
Right, which is why they need to start changing their behavior.
how? whatsapp, wechat, telegram, even signal, all require a phone to be used.
if i didn't need any of those apps then sure, but unfortunately there is no way around these apps if i want to keep in touch with certain people that are important to me.
Re: Hong Kong police can now demand phone passwords under new security rules
#79These kinds of laws worry me since I have forgotten several old passwords. Being disorganized shouldn't be a criminal offense.
Re: Hong Kong police can now demand phone passwords under new security rules
#80Feature request: Make it default behavior on phones that you can have multiple passwords, connected to different profiles. With no way to determine how many profiles a phone have. I'm sure there's some people here working on mobile operating systems, might be worth considering?
As others have pointed out this would likely not save you in this case, but there are some phones which do support this, and I know people in Brazil that use these features in order to be able to comply when getting mugged without giving away access to your bank etc.