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Mystery jump in oil trading ahead of Trump post draws scrutiny

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Re: Mystery jump in oil trading ahead of Trump post draws scrutiny

#72

I'm growing pessimistic that this kind of activity + the egregious presidential-level crypto scams will never see justice. What's the path for that, really?

Organize, organize, organize. With some luck, we can have trials for the crimes of the past few decades and purge our government of hostile actors.

We particularly need a momentary repeal of double jeopardy to get justice for Epsteins victims. I don't care what the implications are, or the precedent. What he did was unprecedented. Retry gelane on rape and espionage, invalidate the non prosecution agreement for the 25 co conspirators, and convict Jeffrey in absentia in case he ever turns up.

Re: Mystery jump in oil trading ahead of Trump post draws scrutiny

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1. By a show of hands, who was surprised that the cataclysmic warnings of the weekend subsided into talk of diplomacy on Monday? 2. Let’s hypothesize the US gov’t or allies did pre-release this info to traders as a policy tool, inviting them to sell oil profitably, shaping the later price action . In a practical sense they may have brought more speculators to the short side than otherwise would have been there; is th…

If you run the numbers: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47504505

You will see, that anything else other than a ground invasion, is guaranteed to give Iran a war victory.

Re: Mystery jump in oil trading ahead of Trump post draws scrutiny

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Revolution, not election. We need a new governance framework in the US. I believe it’s genuinely silly to think this type of activity is limited to one party or one administration or that it is new. I believe the Constitution and related artefacts should be stored in the British Museum with other historical documents. Civic religion needs to be done away with.

That assumes the new system will be better. History tells us otherwise

Well, local history in the US, judged by most current Americans, would probably say the current system is better than the previous one, and the current one spawned from a revolution. Maybe the second (third?) time it'll incrementally improve at least.

Re: Mystery jump in oil trading ahead of Trump post draws scrutiny

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1. By a show of hands, who was surprised that the cataclysmic warnings of the weekend subsided into talk of diplomacy on Monday? 2. Let’s hypothesize the US gov’t or allies did pre-release this info to traders as a policy tool, inviting them to sell oil profitably, shaping the later price action . In a practical sense they may have brought more speculators to the short side than otherwise would have been there; is th…

no one was surprised.

i imagine both sides are actually in the same game.

why do u think trump allow iran to sell oil still -_-. there was a lovely post earlier today on HN laying it all out pretty eloquently.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47499822

i personally think the people who do _business_ on both sides will find their way to profit out of this. as they always do.

if u look at the timing of statements u can see its just a game.

Re: Mystery jump in oil trading ahead of Trump post draws scrutiny

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post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Elections and a collectively demonstrated will for justice.

Elections elected Trump twice, so what other strategy should Americans try next? Americans have been a democracy for 200 years and have no healthcare, no public transit, a crippling drug and homeless problem, a crippling gun violence problem... The list goes on. Democracy doesn't seem to be having the desired affect there. Why should that suddenly change? Where's this hope coming from?

Most of this intransigence is due to corruption, starting with a billionaire cabal’s influence over the supreme court. Citizens United has all but granted the power to decide elections to super PACs, and therefore to the billionaire donor class.

Unfortunately with 90% of broadcast television soon to be owned by a single family, overturning this corrupt power may be even more difficult.

I think it’s time for society as a whole to reconsider the social contract legitimizing the wealth of these oligarchs.

Re: Mystery jump in oil trading ahead of Trump post draws scrutiny

#78

I'm growing pessimistic that this kind of activity + the egregious presidential-level crypto scams will never see justice. What's the path for that, really?

"The Treasury just declared the U.S. insolvent. The media missed it" - https://fortune.com/2026/03/23/us-government-insolvent-fisca...

Re: Mystery jump in oil trading ahead of Trump post draws scrutiny

#79

I'm growing pessimistic that this kind of activity + the egregious presidential-level crypto scams will never see justice. What's the path for that, really?

I think it's likely that they'll see justice in a chaotic way , ie not connected to the specific crime. Most likely outcome is that they make huge paper profits that are then absolutely worthless because the dollar collapses and the property rights that enforce the wealth they gained from these transactions disappear as the government is toppled. Another likely outcome is that they get in the habit of doing criminal…

> Most likely outcome is that they make huge paper profits that are then absolutely worthless because the dollar collapses

Seems like it'd be pretty easy to diversify into inflation-protected assets after taking big profits.

But I also don't see the dollar collapsing any time soon. The dollar's strength is built on the US economy, and the US economy is still one of the strongest in the world, with high productivity per person. We'll see some inflation, sure, but nothing that the rich insider traders can't hedge against.

I do not expect that there will be any real justice here. They're not gutting the average American -- they're bleeding us, extracting a small enough amount of value that they can get away with it. And we don't live in a just world.

Re: Mystery jump in oil trading ahead of Trump post draws scrutiny

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post #73

1. By a show of hands, who was surprised that the cataclysmic warnings of the weekend subsided into talk of diplomacy on Monday? 2. Let’s hypothesize the US gov’t or allies did pre-release this info to traders as a policy tool, inviting them to sell oil profitably, shaping the later price action . In a practical sense they may have brought more speculators to the short side than otherwise would have been there; is th…

If you run the numbers: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47504505 You will see, that anything else other than a ground invasion, is guaranteed to give Iran a war victory.

if a ground invasion goes they will destroy oil trade and everyone is screwed.

The war should not be won. it should be ended before everyone loses.

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