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Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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Post by psychoslave »

ghywertelling wrote: post #24
BoredPositron wrote: post #20

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This is symptom of the misunderstanding among people that somehow more people being knowledgeable about politics will bring about a change. "Pen is mightier than sword" was probably written by a person who only wielded pen. It's a collective psyops inflicted by people on themselves, belonging to an era where it made sense. In today's world, it doesn't matter. Bring missles to a sword / knife fight. Only true power is…

First, conclusion is confounding respect and fear. No one is going to kill a person they respect while they slip or as soon as a window of doability occurs. Fear can bring surface level compliance to orders, but it doesn't provide much respect.

Playing by the book of fear uncertainty and doubt is going to foster hate, distrust and suspicion/paranoia.

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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Post by jchip303 »

flyinglizard wrote: post #62
lukan wrote: post #48

Ok, I did win. Do I get cheaper gasoline now?

That's it? Momentary gasoline price is all that matters now? Not geopolitical interests, alliances, _Doing The Right Thing_? If that's the only angle you care about, then US subduing the Iranian regime would go a long way to de-facto dissolving OPEC and bring much more flexibility to oil prices.

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Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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Post by specproc »

anonymars wrote: post #55
specproc wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

WHO is currently doing readiness for a nuclear attack in the region. This is America, the country willing to do the unconscionable when they're not winning fast enough. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politic...

Other than that, of course, WWII was perfectly civilized

The unfortunate thing is how keen the US and its allies appear to recreate it.

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Post by jacquesm »

roysting wrote: post #60
jacquesm wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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It’s rather ironic that you would make this kind of comment at the same time as your other comment (I happened to notice) about the pen being mightier than the sword, considering that it’s light skinned Iranians (including literal Aryans) being killed by a hodgepodge of skin colors in Israel and among the US troops assembled for invasion and who will die killing the light(er) skinned Iranians. Although the American t…

Anything other than lily white is brown, don't you know? More so if they're sitting on top of a bunch of oil, or have the wrong religion, or just happen to be born in the wrong spot.

Racism isn't necessarily perfectly confined to color, it's just a convenient shorthand so people can do what they want to do anyway.

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Post by flyinglizard »

lukan wrote: post #69
flyinglizard wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's it? Momentary gasoline price is all that matters now? Not geopolitical interests, alliances, _Doing The Right Thing_? If that's the only angle you care about, then US subduing the Iranian regime would go a long way to de-facto dissolving OPEC and bring much more flexibility to oil prices.

Oh, now worries, I can take my bicycle or train whenever possible (like right now). And since I am european, I do not just worry about gasoline, but also that the US actually might attack us at some point, Trump did threaten again over greenland and the last time - it was not just words, danish troops took it serious and were ready to shoot. " https://www.euractiv.com/news/denmark-considered-destroying-... " Unpleasa…

Since WWII you're living under the umbrella of the US, as client states. There was no reason Europe could not amass a significant military power that would grant its sovereignty, but money went to increasing quality of life instead. Trump the 45th even implored EU to do so and bolster NATO.

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Post by RealityVoid »

flyinglizard wrote: post #62
lukan wrote: post #48

Ok, I did win. Do I get cheaper gasoline now?

That's it? Momentary gasoline price is all that matters now? Not geopolitical interests, alliances, _Doing The Right Thing_? If that's the only angle you care about, then US subduing the Iranian regime would go a long way to de-facto dissolving OPEC and bring much more flexibility to oil prices.

None of which is being handled by the current admin with a modicum of professionalism or competency, so I guess at times you just have to pick _one_ from the laundry list of complaints here.

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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Post by RealityVoid »

flyinglizard wrote: post #76
lukan wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh, now worries, I can take my bicycle or train whenever possible (like right now). And since I am european, I do not just worry about gasoline, but also that the US actually might attack us at some point, Trump did threaten again over greenland and the last time - it was not just words, danish troops took it serious and were ready to shoot. " https://www.euractiv.com/news/denmark-considered-destroying-... " Unpleasa…

Since WWII you're living under the umbrella of the US, as client states. There was no reason Europe could not amass a significant military power that would grant its sovereignty, but money went to increasing quality of life instead. Trump the 45th even implored EU to do so and bolster NATO.

That's rich, the guy threatening the existence of NATO more than any other factor is trying to bolster NATO. I struggle to imagine how you square this in your mind.
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