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Re: Apple announces new Mac sales record following MacBook Neo launch

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Post by kube-system »

nickjj wrote: post #65
kube-system wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, but the $600 MacBooks are coming straight for the $600 plastic shitbox windows laptops. The competition at this price point is weak.

> The competition at this price point is weak. Is it though? 6 months ago for $575, I picked up a 15" 1080p IPS display laptop with an AMD Ryzen 7 6800H (8 cores / 16 threads), 32 GB of DDR5 RAM, Radeon 680M iGPU that can use up to 8 GB VRAM and a 1 TB NVME SSD with a backlight keyboard, a bunch of USB ports and HDMI port. It weighs the same as a MBP and comes with a 2 year manufacturer warranty. It's upgradable to 6…

All of those specs are orthogonal to the gripes people are referring to when they call a laptop a "plastic shitbox"

Re: Apple announces new Mac sales record following MacBook Neo launch

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Post by nielsbot »

solatic wrote: post #38
65 wrote: post #2

Maybe PC manufacturers will finally get a wake up call to stop making plastic shitboxes. Maybe Microsoft will get a wake up call too. Though, I kind of doubt it as the incompetence in PC land is comical.

Arguably, only Apple is able to pull this off, due to huge investments in their supply chain and fully ordering out entire factories. It also comes in the worst political climate for their competitors. Dell, HP, and others announcing large supply chain investment anywhere but the US would be insane. Making that supply chain investment in the US would make a $500 price point impossible. Microsoft and Intel threw their…

Apple also gets to fund their manufacturing investments using phone and other revenue

Re: Apple announces new Mac sales record following MacBook Neo launch

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Post by rocketvole »

baal80spam wrote: post #4
imeron wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh I think Microsoft got the memo: This is Microsoft’s plan to fix Windows 11 https://www.theverge.com/news/897834/microsoft-windows-11-qu...

They SAY they got the memo. Colour me very skeptical, but we'll see.

I mean, a lot of the issues that they says they'll fix can be patched with third party tools. They won't get rid of ads or tracking, or anything significant. affect their bottom line.

As someone who has never owned a mac, the only reason I would buy a pc at this point in time is to install linux on it.

Re: Apple announces new Mac sales record following MacBook Neo launch

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Post by jasonjmcghee »

amluto wrote: post #44
jasonjmcghee wrote: post #18

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0 improvements is unfair https://github.com/apple/container

I wonder if it’s time to try this again. Last time I tried it, it was intensely buggy, not to mention almost every feature I wanted. The concept is great, and I would love to ditch OrbStack for it. (OrbStack is slick. But their everything-shares-one-kernel-and-they-don’t-give-privileged-access model falls apart as soon as you try to do anything that doesn’t fit in their not-amazing sandbox. Even user namespaces don’t…

I certainly haven’t done anything outside of general happy path but i swapped out docker for it and it “just worked” - and i got more battery life

Re: Apple announces new Mac sales record following MacBook Neo launch

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Post by mikestew »

furyofantares wrote: post #43
longislandguido wrote: post #8

Tahoe/iOS26 are still the most godawful buggy pieces of software Apple ever created. I counted 0 net improvements and countless new bugs. Apple is having their Windows ME moment. It doesn't matter how much cheap hardware you throw at the unwashed masses. It's all about the software they would say. The chickens have come home to roost.

> Tahoe/iOS26 are still the most godawful buggy pieces of software Apple ever created. What is everyone seeing that I'm not? I like Tahoe/iOS26, I haven't noticed regressions with it.

Compared to Windows? Tahoe is probably fine. Compared to previous versions of macOS/OS X? Nothing deal-breaking for me, but there are all kinds of little things that just don't have the polish long-time macOS users are accustomed to. Sibling comments have already listed a few things, but take the grab points of the window corners, which don't actually match the window borders. A minor thing, IMO, but not very "Apple-y" to let something like that ship. The menu icons are another: they add clutter, they don't add a lot of value, and they look like crap. Again, not a huge deal, but c'mon, Apple, UI is supposed to be your thing.

I don't hate Tahoe myself, but I don't particularly love it, either. I can still get done what I need to do with an OS, but along with a bunch of other paper cuts in recent macOS versions (looking at you, System Settings) on top of Liquid Glass, I can see why folks are upset.

Re: Apple announces new Mac sales record following MacBook Neo launch

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Post by didip »

longislandguido wrote: post #8

Tahoe/iOS26 are still the most godawful buggy pieces of software Apple ever created. I counted 0 net improvements and countless new bugs. Apple is having their Windows ME moment. It doesn't matter how much cheap hardware you throw at the unwashed masses. It's all about the software they would say. The chickens have come home to roost.

What’s so bad about it? I haven’t noticed anything different.

I only need Apple ecosystem integrations, Docker, a bunch of CLI tools, Homebrew, and VSCode with Claude.

Re: Apple announces new Mac sales record following MacBook Neo launch

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Post by kps »

furyofantares wrote: post #43
longislandguido wrote: post #8

Tahoe/iOS26 are still the most godawful buggy pieces of software Apple ever created. I counted 0 net improvements and countless new bugs. Apple is having their Windows ME moment. It doesn't matter how much cheap hardware you throw at the unwashed masses. It's all about the software they would say. The chickens have come home to roost.

> Tahoe/iOS26 are still the most godawful buggy pieces of software Apple ever created. What is everyone seeing that I'm not? I like Tahoe/iOS26, I haven't noticed regressions with it.

My Mac is staying releases back, but iOS26 no longer respects light mode. Since I see astigmatic halation, this will be my last iDevice.

Re: Apple announces new Mac sales record following MacBook Neo launch

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Post by simonh »

kube-system wrote: post #9
bigyabai wrote: post #7

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Plastic shitboxes are a very lucrative segment of the laptop market. I don't think the $600 Macbook will be displacing $200-$300 Chromebooks anytime soon.

No, but the $600 MacBooks are coming straight for the $600 plastic shitbox windows laptops. The competition at this price point is weak.

Also Apple are masters of the up-sell. Someone who knows $600 windows laptops are crap might just buy a cheaper Chromebook because crap is crap, but they might spring for another few hundred bucks for something they have confidence is actually pretty nice and has brand Caché.

Re: Apple announces new Mac sales record following MacBook Neo launch

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Post by oompydoompy74 »

longislandguido wrote: post #8

Tahoe/iOS26 are still the most godawful buggy pieces of software Apple ever created. I counted 0 net improvements and countless new bugs. Apple is having their Windows ME moment. It doesn't matter how much cheap hardware you throw at the unwashed masses. It's all about the software they would say. The chickens have come home to roost.

This doesn’t excuse the issues, but the mainstream alternative, Windows 11, is infinitely worse imho.

Re: Apple announces new Mac sales record following MacBook Neo launch

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Post by out_of_protocol »

nickjj wrote: post #65
kube-system wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, but the $600 MacBooks are coming straight for the $600 plastic shitbox windows laptops. The competition at this price point is weak.

> The competition at this price point is weak. Is it though? 6 months ago for $575, I picked up a 15" 1080p IPS display laptop with an AMD Ryzen 7 6800H (8 cores / 16 threads), 32 GB of DDR5 RAM, Radeon 680M iGPU that can use up to 8 GB VRAM and a 1 TB NVME SSD with a backlight keyboard, a bunch of USB ports and HDMI port. It weighs the same as a MBP and comes with a 2 year manufacturer warranty. It's upgradable to 6…

Do note that in current economics 32GB of RAM alone will cost something like $400
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