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Re: Mozilla to launch free built-in VPN in upcoming Firefox 149

#72

As a Firefox user: if I want a VPN I'll use an actual VPN. Focus on making a great browser, and not all this distraction. Also, "free": "If you're not paying for it, you're the product being sold"

I think a VPN is a great add-on for Firefox and way for Mozilla to monetize itself, but I'm surprised it's free. Perhaps it's a free trial like Proton?

Re: Mozilla to launch free built-in VPN in upcoming Firefox 149

#73
post #28

Why are they trying to sell a VPN in the countries where users barely need it?

That feels weird to me as well. I get that they need to trial it, but United States, France, Germany and the United Kingdom isn't really the countries I'd priorities for a free VPN.

I understand that a number of people in both the US and the UK is struggling right now and may not be able to affort a VPN, but their primary need is to avoid age restriction, while a large number countries are censoring the internet for political reasons. That latter seems more important to address.

Re: Mozilla to launch free built-in VPN in upcoming Firefox 149

#74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it only affects traffic within the browser Yes because it's VPN for the browser. I can do the same kind of targeting with most VPN software. Applying it to specific programs doesn't make it stop being a VPN. > This explains it well enough though: Which answer? The dumb bot that contradicts itself? The first human answer says it is a VPN. Though that "cyber security expert" is also not someone I would trust since th…

Is an SSH jump server a VPN (or forwarding a port from another machine at VPN)? I'd suggest neither are because it's connection-based rather than setting up a network (with routing etc). Absent a network, it's a proxy (which can be used like some deployments of a VPN).

Really none of these VPNs are VPNs either since they don't establish a virtual private network. They are just tunnels for your internet access. Tailscale is actual VPN software. It simulates a private network.

Re: Mozilla to launch free built-in VPN in upcoming Firefox 149

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post #21

You know what would be actually cool and a transformative improvement? Mozilla to make an iOS port of Firefox and publish it in regions where Apple has been forced to allow it.

Apple doesn't allow alternative browsers in those regions, it just does enough to convince the regulatory body that it allows them and the other browsers just don't want to for some reason.

Re: Mozilla to launch free built-in VPN in upcoming Firefox 149

#76

As I understand it, it is just like in Opera. So a proxy not a VPN. I honestly find it distasteful that they may call it a VPN without it actually being one.

A VPN as you refer to it isn't a VPN either. There's no private network that is virtualized. Actual VPN software is like Tailscale.

Re: Mozilla to launch free built-in VPN in upcoming Firefox 149

#77

As a Firefox user: if I want a VPN I'll use an actual VPN. Focus on making a great browser, and not all this distraction. Also, "free": "If you're not paying for it, you're the product being sold"

Do you live in 2010? Whether you pay for a service or not is irrelevant to selling your data nowadays.

Re: Mozilla to launch free built-in VPN in upcoming Firefox 149

#80

Another Mozilla project to be discontinued in 18 months ...

This is how I feel about it, like Firefox Send, it ended up being abused, and a free VPN will go thought the same path, as much as I want Firefox to succeed is like they never learn a lesson.

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/what-happened-firefox-s...

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