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> That’s a rare case where I support NIMBY. It's kind of darkly funny that NIMBY ever came to refer to housing in the first place. The term was originally meant to apply to stuff exactly like this -- i.e. genuinely noxious uses that most people nevertheless agree are necessary somewhere . Almost everybody is a NIMBY in this sense.
NIMBY is an acronym: No In My back Yard.
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Some thing which get described as NIMBYism are better described as NIBYism. A state housing complex is just housing. Not wanting that nearby is NIMBYism because it's about not wanting it specifically near your home even though it's, by definition, going to need to be done in a spot zoned for homes. The question around a e.g. jet engine test site is very different though - more like "why would we need the jet engine t…
Haha this is because of the on site gas turbines because we’ve decided that any power infrastructure is evil. You gotta love the NDFA that is the market finding the gaps in law to reach utility. I live near a datacenter myself in San Francisco. No problems here.
You might not feel it right away, but the closer you are to these things, the more your health is going to suffer over time.
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What do you mean, "allowed" to vote on it? The county officials are the decisionmakers, who should have allowed or not allowed them? It also seems worth noting that these gas turbine generators are meant to be the solution to another big complaint people have about datacenters, that they might drive up local power prices if they plug into the grid. Like you and the people in the article, I'm personally very sensitive…
> What do you mean, "allowed" to vote on it? The county officials are the decisionmakers, who should have allowed or not allowed them? Well I'm not sure how it works there but there are requests here made before building can start. Planning permission is usually first voted on by committee and then brought to the public in the area and public forums are where people get to ask questions such as "what's the expected n…
The US seems like a pretty huge area for the number of people living there. Why do they need to build a data center 100m from a house, why not build it 1000m away?
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Some thing which get described as NIMBYism are better described as NIBYism. A state housing complex is just housing. Not wanting that nearby is NIMBYism because it's about not wanting it specifically near your home even though it's, by definition, going to need to be done in a spot zoned for homes. The question around a e.g. jet engine test site is very different though - more like "why would we need the jet engine t…
There's no reason to torture the acronym just to avoid a perceived stigma. Not wanting something developed near you is NIMBYism. NIMBYism can be reasonable or unreasonable. You can label an opinion NIMBY as an implied insult or with no judgement at all.
Haha this is because of the on site gas turbines because we’ve decided that any power infrastructure is evil. You gotta love the NDFA that is the market finding the gaps in law to reach utility. I live near a datacenter myself in San Francisco. No problems here.
> Stephenson said the data center’s operations team had not seen any “abnormalities” on the day in question. > “However, we take any reports of issues at the site seriously,” Stephenson wrote Absolutely no abnormalities because this is by design, but nobody wanted to pay attention when approving the building and zoning. Amazing what some money to politicians will get you. I can't even imaging living within ear shot o…
> "It was only after the data center was operating, following a tour he took of the facility, that Turner said county officials realized the data center was “running in island mode.”
> “It was very impressive, but it was obvious that this is not what we thought was allowed,” Turner said."
Youve stated its corruption by officials. Its rather clear, however, that when the company were told that a grid connection would take 3 years that they found a way around it that didnt require further approvals.
Conspiracy theories are fun, but this isnt one.
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> What do you mean, "allowed" to vote on it? The county officials are the decisionmakers, who should have allowed or not allowed them? Well I'm not sure how it works there but there are requests here made before building can start. Planning permission is usually first voted on by committee and then brought to the public in the area and public forums are where people get to ask questions such as "what's the expected n…
The article details why it wasn't so basic here. Loudoun County allows datacenters to be built by right without a hearing, because they were understood to be (and IME still usually are) very low-impact on the neighbors. The gas turbines were approved as a temporary power source, but then the local power company Dominion said "temporary" would have to last for years longer than planned. Now they're changing the rules…
Genuine question but is the problem datacenters or more specifically AI specific datacenters? Because all these talks of data-center disrupting everyday's life from all the videos I have watched somehow now involve the AI/GPU aspect which have definitely made things more energy intensive and more water intensive But more specifically compute focused datacenters actually feel somewhat good/neutral to the region and yo…
Vast majority of the new ones are for AI