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The worst volume control UI in the world (2017)

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Re: The worst volume control UI in the world (2017)

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> Should is interesting because of its subjectiveness. It’s a question that only makes sense to be asked in first person. And you have to know about much more than just design to be able to answer it — you have to understand about business, technology, culture, people. Answering the should question is a skill you only get after many, many years answering questions alike. I wish more front-end designers would consider…

>"We can create our own implementation of a drop-down box"

Have been using MS "Dynamics" and wanted to add custom styling as a user. Even small lists/tables have all the off-screen elements destroyed so you can't copy stuff from the page, but also you might have to scroll things into view before they get styled (:has gets broken).

They re-implement tables as a swamp of elements which now lack semantic relationships.

They give the same elements random ids, they're non-deterministic. You can only really style by hierarchy, but for every property they seem to add at least one new element.

Everything about it is slow and cumbersome, and no wonder a simple table has hundreds of elements.

It's so Microsoft, the "don't bake your own widgets" taken to the n-th degree.

Re: The worst volume control UI in the world (2017)

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whoosh

How is it whoosh? Seemed exactly like what you where referencing. Knobs marked by up to 11 inspired by the same source, Spinal Tap.

You could try reading the TFA, and understanding that my comment was a joke (referring to Spinal Tap, of course) about those UIs, not a request for a knob with 11 divisions. pseudohadamard's knobs inspired by Spinal Tap have nothing to do with "the worst volume control UI in the world", about which the only thing I'm (jokily) concerned is whether they go up to 11, implying that having a horrible UI isn't relevant to me, only going up to 11 is ... this completely went over your and his head and I suspect that it still does. So the whoosh is because he completely missed what was going on here, and the second whoosh is because he missed the fact that I was the very person whose comment he responded to who called out his completely point-missing response with "whoosh".

Over and out. I won't respond again.

Re: The worst volume control UI in the world (2017)

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post #10

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Whoosh again. I'm the OP in this case.

Ah, right, so you're someone who likes saying whoosh a lot. Feel free to let rip.

You could try reading the TFA, and understanding that my comment was a joke (referring to Spinal Tap, of course) about those UIs, not a request for a knob with 11 divisions. Your knobs inspired by Spinal Tap have nothing to do with "the worst volume control UI in the world", about which the only thing I'm (jokily) concerned is whether they go up to 11, implying that having a horrible UI isn't relevant to me, only going up to 11 is ... this completely went over your head and I suspect that it still does. So the whoosh is because you completely missed what was going on here, and the second whoosh is because you missed the fact that I was the very person whose comment you responded to who called out your completely point-missing response with "whoosh".

Over and out. I won't respond again.

Re: The worst volume control UI in the world (2017)

#74
I have my sennheiser bluetooth headphones connected to windows 11, for whatever reason, 90% of the time, I move the slider on Windows 11 and it ignores completely the sound on my headphones, just great working products. I have to use the physical buttons on my headphones like a caveman

Re: The worst volume control UI in the world (2017)

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post #50

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That’s actually a really common implementation failure across all platforms. It crops up again and again, in virtually every new thing that people implement. It’s very common to see this problem when you activate a submenu of a menu, and want to move the mouse diagonally to pick some item from the submenu.

See here for how Amazon's mega menu was designed around this problem: https://bjk5.com/post/44698559168/breaking-down-amazons-mega...

It's slightly irritating to see Amazon get credit for that, when Bruce Tognazzini used that same solution 40 years ago when working on the classic MacOS interface!

(Apple forgot about it again for OS X, but that's a different story.)

Re: The worst volume control UI in the world (2017)

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post #57

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There is either an unvote or undown option once you’ve hit one

Ah, thanks. That confirms I upvoted, but I think "vote" is a silly verb to use to convey the opposite of "down"!

I’d say 60% of the time I go to vote I click a users name instead when I’m on mobile.

Re: The worst volume control UI in the world (2017)

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post #70

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See here for how Amazon's mega menu was designed around this problem: https://bjk5.com/post/44698559168/breaking-down-amazons-mega...

It's slightly irritating to see Amazon get credit for that, when Bruce Tognazzini used that same solution 40 years ago when working on the classic MacOS interface! (Apple forgot about it again for OS X, but that's a different story.)

From the article:

> I’m sure this problem was solved years and years ago, forgotten, rediscovered, solved again, forgotten, rediscovered, solved again.

Re: The worst volume control UI in the world (2017)

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post #47

This "article" just rehashes the top submissions from the reddit thread and then adds some surface level musings about UX. It also blasts you with a full screen subscribe popup, ostensibly in case you want to see more rehashed content.

Seriously, why not just link to the Reddit thread instead of this? It seems like every damn site has become a Torment Nexus.

Re: The worst volume control UI in the world (2017)

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post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah, right, so you're someone who likes saying whoosh a lot. Feel free to let rip.

You could try reading the TFA, and understanding that my comment was a joke (referring to Spinal Tap, of course) about those UIs, not a request for a knob with 11 divisions. Your knobs inspired by Spinal Tap have nothing to do with "the worst volume control UI in the world", about which the only thing I'm (jokily) concerned is whether they go up to 11, implying that having a horrible UI isn't relevant to me, only goi…

Did you have envisioned the possibility that your were the one that have missed other people joke ?

Re: The worst volume control UI in the world (2017)

#80

I'd add the volume control for Quicktime 4. A dial that you had to use a mouse to use. http://hallofshame.gp.co.at/qtime.htm EDIT: previously 763 points by yankcrime on July 13, 2021 | hide | past | favorite | 477 comments https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27819384

And the silly thing is, as ridiculous as they are for mouse click/drag or touch use, those kind of dial controls are actually reasonable when coupled to a scroll wheel (like you can do in GNURadio). But Apple has never wavered from "one mouse button and nothing else is good enough for everybody," and scroll wheels aren't really an option for a touch interface.
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