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Re: Office.eu launches as Europe's sovereign office platform

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Post by gzread »

dabedee wrote: post #6

I laud the attempt and I think it's important there are more projects that try to compete with their American counterparts. I do want to gently note that if your entire pitch is "we are a bold, independent European alternative that liberates you from the hegemony of the established American players," maybe don't name your product the exact same thing as the product you're replacing? "Office." They named it "Office."

The product they're replacing is called Microsoft Copilot 365 :)

More seriously, Office is a great word for what the software package does, and it can't be trademarked. You can have Microsoft Office, Libre Office, and Europa Office.

Re: Office.eu launches as Europe's sovereign office platform

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Post by toinewx »

lashull wrote: post #43

wtf!? I enter my email address for an invitation, receive a link to an est. 2 pages form for answering a shit load of unrelated question, like org name, org country, last summer vacation, first time I got pimples... Is this a request to become the next pope?

this whole thing is a bait

Re: Office.eu launches as Europe's sovereign office platform

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Post by oever »

BitsAndObjects wrote: post #59
BitsAndObjects wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh, there's some reference to NextCloud - so is this just a white-labeled NextCloud? Or a straight-up AI generated rip-off / resell?

>"Office EU is a European productivity suite for files, email, calendars, documents and calls, built on Nextcloud Hub. It brings Files, Talk, Groupware and Office together in one platform." https://office.eu/faq Of which, Files, Talk, Office and Groupware are all just NextCloud services where they've swapped "Nextcloud" for "EU" in the name. >"Office.EU is a service offered and operated by EUfforic Europe BV, registe…

Nextcloud does not provide hosting, only 3rd level support. So any commercial hosting of Nextcloud will be done by other companies. There are many companies to choose from.

https://nextcloud.com/partners/

Personally, I would only choose companies that are listed as a partner because then I can see what level of support they buy from Nextcloud.

Re: Office.eu launches as Europe's sovereign office platform

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Post by hmstx »

Well that's a pompous headline from the author's PR dept. "Europe" as in, "The European Union", or just some marketing trick based on making you believe it is to give it more weight?

I'm european and can still easily confuse the "European Union" and "Europe the general area" when context is lacking, it's not a big stretch of the imagination for me that people _anywhere_ could construe this as "official" as well.

All that it looks like is backed by some emanation from the city of The Hague. No mention of the EU proper. It's european owned and backed, sure, but not EU owned and backed.

Tsh, marketing. (see Bill Hicks on marketing).

Re: Office.eu launches as Europe's sovereign office platform

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Post by pentagrama »

About pricing [1]:

> What are the pricing plans?

> Office EU will offer simple plans for individuals and teams. Pricing will be competitive and designed to be easy to understand. We will publish full plan details closer to launch.

> Will there be a free plan?

> A free plan is planned after launch. It will be a good way to try Office EU before committing. Exact limits and features will be shared when it is ready.

[1] https://office.eu/faq

Re: Office.eu launches as Europe's sovereign office platform

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Post by Kuraj »

stavros wrote: post #67
GavinAnderegg wrote: post #9

From the FAQ on the homepage: What is Office EU? Office EU is a European productivity suite for files, email, calendars, documents and calls, built on Nextcloud Hub. It brings Files, Talk, Groupware and Office together in one platform. Looking through the Office EU screenshots, they do look like Nextcloud Groupware/Files/Office with the logo changed. Mostly adding this because I wasn't sure if it was a new product or…

Hopefully it is whitelabeled Nextcloud, and all the improvements can go back to the Nextcloud core. That would be a great use of my tax money.

I agree. We don't need to reinvent the wheel.

Re: Office.eu launches as Europe's sovereign office platform

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Post by gzread »

davidpaulyoung wrote: post #28

You can have hosted Nextcloud on Hetzner, with Headscale, email server, Vaultwarden, and Wordpress on European infrastructure (Hetzner) individually installed just for you from Federated Computer today for $19/month unlimited user accounts. I use it every day. Human support, too...!

Sure you can, you can also pirate Microsoft Office (the versions prior to the shittening). But companies don't want that, they just want to pay a few bucks per user per month to make it someone else's problem. Microsoft offers this service. Google offers this service. FOSS does not.

That's also why always-connected SaaS is winning - it makes more things the vendor's problem instead of the customer's problem. Provided that you maintain a good relationship with your vendor. A metal machining company doesn't want to hire an employee to manage a bespoke computer system, or even to replace computer parts or install Ethernet cabling in the building. They might do it, if it's the only good option, but they prefer it to just work without effort, even for more money.

Re: Office.eu launches as Europe's sovereign office platform

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Post by sgt »

flumpcakes wrote: post #32
sgt wrote: post #10

> Office EU is a complete cloud-based office suite Issue is.. if you are a traditional MS Office "poweruser", the last thing you want to do is spend your days in a web browser. These apps should also be available as native apps, similar to MS Word, Excel, Pages, Keynote, etc.

The vast majority of office use at my work is in the browsers because the files are stored in Sharepoint. It seems to work well enough for basic needs (no macros and fairly simple formulas in excel etc.) I have a non-technical friend in finance who uses the Desktop versions of Excel for most of their work and they say it crashes nearly every day losing work.

Excel is pretty stable.. I guess it could be those specific sheets doing something odd.
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