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Re: Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans

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I think using AI for a bit more potent spellchecking or style hints is... fine, honestly. I don't usually do it, you can tell from all the silly spelling mistakes I do. But a bit more polishing for your posts is a good thing, not a bad one, as long as it doesn't hide your voice.

The problem is it always hides your voice. Always

Yep. I actually prefer seeing imperfect writing, there is signal there that AI would erase.

Re: Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans

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post #15

I believe the issue of proving who is and who isn't really human on the Internet will be a really important issue in the coming years, especially without sacrificing people's right to privacy and anonymity in the process.

you could sell physical items at any store where you have to show your ID and you get one for the age group you are. that kills two birds with one stone, you can then show everywhere online you are human and how old you are without the services needing any personal information about you, and the sellers don't know what you use that id tag for.

I'll sell you my proof-of-human-age badge for $1,000.

Re: Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans

#74
post #9

Also please don't post accusations of comments reeking of AI.

Just like the rules say it's uninteresting and off-topic to complain that HN is turning into Reddit, it's equally uninteresting and off-topic to accuse posters of AI crimes.

And everyone's personal AI detector has a ridiculously high false-positive rate.

Re: Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans

#75

I have a kid with severe written language issues, and the utilisation of STT w/ a LLM-powered edit has unlocked a whole world that was previously inaccessible. What is amazing is it would have remained so just a couple of years ago!

What is STT in this context?

Re: Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans

#77
A practical question: what should readers do when they suspect a comment (or story) is AI-generated? Is that an appropriate reason for flagging? Email the mods? Do nothing?

I've been pretty wary about flagging AI slop that wasn't breaking other guidelines, and by default this will probably make me do it more. But it is a lot harder to be certain about something being AI-written than it is to judge other types of rules violations.

(But am definitely flagging every single "this was written by AI" joke comment posted on this story. What the hell is wrong with you people?)

Re: Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans

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post #41
post #15

I believe the issue of proving who is and who isn't really human on the Internet will be a really important issue in the coming years, especially without sacrificing people's right to privacy and anonymity in the process.

you could sell physical items at any store where you have to show your ID and you get one for the age group you are. that kills two birds with one stone, you can then show everywhere online you are human and how old you are without the services needing any personal information about you, and the sellers don't know what you use that id tag for.

People who are posting AI comments or setting up AI bots are... people. They can show their ID. If a website owner doesn't have a way to ban that specific human and the bad guy can always get another voucher, it's sort of meaningless.

In fact, even if you can ban the human for life, I'm not sure it solves anything. There are billions of people out there and there's money to be made by monetizing attention. AI-generated content is a way to do that, so there's plenty of takers who don't mind the risk of getting booted from some platform once in a blue moon if it makes them $5k/month without requiring any effort or skill.

Re: Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans

#79

I appreciate this being added to the guidelines. That said, I also wouldn't hate seeing an official playground where it is cordoned / appreciated for bots to operate. I.E., like Moltbook, but for HN...? I realize this could be done by a third party, but I wouldn't hate seeing Ycombinator take a stab at it. Maybe that's too experimental, and that would be better left to third parties to implement (I'm guessing there's…

You could mirror article postings and upvotes to another site and let AI play around there - if it's interesting to people maybe it will gain a following. I don't see any reason it'd need to happen in this specific forum as that'd likely just cause confusion.

At the time being, at least, HN is a single uncategorized (mostly, lets ignore search) message board - splitting it into two would cause confusion and drastically degrade the UX.

Re: Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans

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post #15

I believe the issue of proving who is and who isn't really human on the Internet will be a really important issue in the coming years, especially without sacrificing people's right to privacy and anonymity in the process.

I hope I'm wrong but I don't think a privacy friendly alternative is going to exist. It's going to go the way of show me your drivers license to use my site.
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