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U+237C ⍼ Is Azimuth

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Re: U+237C ⍼ Is Azimuth

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Post by kindkang2024 »

card_zero wrote: post #60
kindkang2024 wrote: post #50

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Smells like numerology.

> Smells like numerology.

Kind of. And as a guy with a solid science background, I just don't buy into that kind of interpretation.

But if it is numerology, I believe I CHING divination is more like a commit-and-reveal scheme — you can't infer the future from the proof alone. You might only get to verify it once the future actually plays out. Kind of like a zero-knowledge proof — it gives you a proof/advice based on a possible future, but you gain nothing from it since the underlying computation is NP-hard. So better to treat it as a kind of thinking framework — like SWOT or scenario planning, but from a different cultural tradition.

Re: U+237C ⍼ Is Azimuth

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Post by kindkang2024 »

emil-lp wrote: post #74
kindkang2024 wrote: post #72

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> This account is an LLM IMHO. I like HN, and I'm not a native speaker. I do use LLMs to refine my wording, but I am not an LLM.

I think many prefer poor English over LLM English.

Understood. But my priority is whether the words express my thoughts crystal clear — clarity over style.

Re: U+237C ⍼ Is Azimuth

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Post by yorwba »

kookybakker wrote: post #57
krick wrote: post #44

I am a bit surprised a unicode character could be a mistery at all. The unicode process is quite bureaucratic, so how comes there wasn't any justification given when the character was submitted for inclusion? After all, I know plenty of symbols that definitely are used routinely in some domains, but that are not a part of Unicode, and it appears that going through the process to actually get them included would be a…

Seeing stuff like this, but knowing we can not get a unicode symbol for the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flourish_of_approval despite how ubiqitous it is in the Netherlands always frustrates me.

It doesn't seem like anybody ever filed the paperwork for it. (A search for "krul" on site:unicode.org doesn't turn up anything.) Unicode symbols don't just magically appear! Somebody has to do a bit of work to make it happen. If you're frustrated by a missing symbol, that somebody is probably you!

Re: U+237C ⍼ Is Azimuth

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Post by IshKebab »

qingcharles wrote: post #22
Conscat wrote: post #16

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That's become of the most memorable threads on Hacker News to me. I definitely think about it at least once most weeks.

Closure finally!

Well not really though. It still doesn't answer where the symbol came from; just where it was first catalogued.

Presumably its original use was in some yet-unfound paper or manual where they needed a symbol for azimuth.

Re: U+237C ⍼ Is Azimuth

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Post by goodmythical »

emil-lp wrote: post #74
kindkang2024 wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This account is an LLM IMHO. I like HN, and I'm not a native speaker. I do use LLMs to refine my wording, but I am not an LLM.

I think many prefer poor English over LLM English.

I think many prefer AI writing to whining about AI writing.

Re: U+237C ⍼ Is Azimuth

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Post by Luc »

kindkang2024 wrote: post #72
Luc wrote: post #67

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This account is an LLM IMHO.

> This account is an LLM IMHO. I like HN, and I'm not a native speaker. I do use LLMs to refine my wording, but I am not an LLM.

Thanks for the clarification. I did see some things in your comments (for example giving references in the one above) that made me suspect this.

I dislike the character imparted to your words by the LLM, though. Knowing that it is artificial makes me feel it's more of a waste of time to read it. But I will try to ignore it.

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